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    Dame_Enda Dame_Enda is online now
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    Israel Deputy Chief of Staff warns of 'Nazi trends' in Israel.

    A row has broken out over remarks by the IDF Deputy Chief of Staff Yair Golan warning of trends in Israeli society similar to Germany in the 1930s. The PM has denounced the remarks while the Defence Minister supports Golan.

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    Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has issued a stern public rebuke to the military deputy chief of staff.
    Maj-Gen Yair Golan said on the eve of Thursday's annual Holocaust Day that he detected trends in Israeli society suggestive of "nauseating processes" that occurred in 1930s Nazi Germany.
    Mr Netanyahu said the comments were outrageous, cheapened the Holocaust and caused harm to Israel.
    Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon said he had "total confidence" in Gen Golan.
    "If there's something that frightens me about Holocaust remembrance it's the recognition of the nauseating processes that occurred in Europe in general, and particularly in Germany, back then - 70, 80 and 90 years ago - and finding signs of them here among us today in 2016," the deputy chief of staff said on Wednesday.

    "There is, after all, nothing easier and simpler than hating the foreigner... arousing fears and terrifying."
    But Mr Netanyahu said Gen Golan's remarks were "utterly mistaken and unacceptable to me".
    "The comparison drawn in the words of the deputy chief of staff regarding events which characterised Nazi Germany 80 years ago is outrageous," he said.
    "They do injustice to Israeli society and cause a belittling of the Holocaust."
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    A Jew thread was badly needed.

    Will give the holocaust deniers/Zionist obsessed freaks a new lease of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    A Jew thread was badly needed.

    Will give the holocaust deniers/Zionist obsessed freaks a new lease of life.
    No mention of the Masons though.

    We need a rate the anti-semite facility - it would make this great site even greater.
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    When you have an Israeli general warning of Nazi trends in Israel, it underlines this is a mainstream concern not just one of the anti Semitic lunatic fringe. Maybe it has something to do with mobs shouting "Death to Arabs" and politicians supporting soldiers involved in atrocities, not to mention house demolitions and settlements
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    Who is Yair Golan, the "deputy chief of staff" to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    A row has broken out over remarks by the IDF Deputy Chief of Staff Yair Golan warning of trends in Israeli society similar to Germany in the 1930s. The PM has denounced the remarks while the Defence Minister supports Golan.
    Thank you for drawing our attention to this particular matter. Sometimes we get the impression that all Israelis are supportive of the actions of both the IDF and Jewish State in general. That's not necessarily so and a healthy debate among Israelis is important.

    In many cases they have been the subject of a pretty virulent campaign by fellow Israelis at home and Jews abroad.
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    Then Netanyahu tries to label his words as dangerous.

    You couldn't make this guy up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    When you have an Israeli general warning of Nazi trends in Israel, it underlines this is a mainstream concern not just one of the anti Semitic lunatic fringe. Maybe it has something to do with mobs shouting "Death to Arabs" and politicians supporting soldiers involved in atrocities, not to mention house demolitions and settlements
    No. There is a BIG difference between this kind of debate within Israel, and that that occurs outside of it.

    I.e. Outside of the framework of domestic Israeli political debate (for example, within the framework of Irish domestic "activism"), what you inevitably find if you look carefully, is that antizionism nearly always tends to antisemitism. - But that is rarely the case within Israel.

    Indeed I wonder why people like you can't just let Israel alone to have their debate without descending on their every utterance like this in the manner of a vulture.

    Of course, the barrage of anti-Israel / anti-Jewish stories, are mostly gross distortions or out-right lies. But that is not to say there are real underlying issues there.

    Take this - there are four major "imperialist" players in the region. The Arabs, the Turks, the Iranians and the Israeli Jews. - Now, all these countries in the region ruled by each of these four players has sizeable minorities that are to a lesser or greater degree suppressed, mistreated, or otherwise abused.

    But why this utterly disproportionate obsession with the behavior of the Israelis v the Palestinians? Actual and otherwise. (Usually otherwise). And why this complete obliviousness to the what is happening to all the other downtrodden minorities in the region? (Which when you add them all up is almost half the population of the Middle East.). - Do you even know who the Circassians are, where exactly Baluchistan is, or what language the Azaries speak? Or what is the plight of such minorities as these? No.

    Of course, the message the deputy chief was really trying to convey has been lost here. What he was really trying to say has been ignored. Instead, a couple of sentences have been swooped upon. - And it has also been ignored that here is a man who is charged with leading the IDF, inspiring it, keeping it true to its values, giving it its vision, exhorting its morals. That is what he speaks towards. Nothing else.

    And in speaking towards this, this man exposed a weak, conciliatory, abasing, spot and it was attacked by Israel's enemies with typical vehemence. So it falls to Netanyahu as usual to minimise the damage and ensure his people are not more greatly endangered or compromised.
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    "Indeed there is nothing easier than to simply hate the other, there is nothing easier than to provoke fears and strike terror; there is nothing easier than barbaric behavior, moral corruption and hypocrisy.”
    There is a glimmer of hope in the views of this man. It will be interesting to see how he is treated by the ethnic-cleansers of the government.

    The full text is here: Deputy IDF chief's Holocaust Remembrance Day speech raises ire - Israel News, Ynetnews
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    A Jew thread was badly needed.

    Will give the holocaust deniers/Zionist obsessed freaks a new lease of life.
    Not to mention the trolls
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