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About LinkBacksThe lunatics are at it again. 'Root and branch reform of NATO' to include pre-emptive nuclear strike as legitimate option. Oblivion, here we come:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,3321 ... 02,00.html
The lunatics are at it again. 'Root and branch reform of NATO' to include pre-emptive nuclear strike as legitimate option. Oblivion, here we come:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,3321 ... 02,00.html
Dr Strangelove, anyone?
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We've been there before. The entire nuclear strategy of the Cold War was based on the M.A.D. theory i.e Mutually Assured Destruction. The same applies now. It is only by showing that you have nuclear weapons and are prepared to use them in a pre-emptive strike that you can keep a lid on them. Anyone remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? That is exactly what Kennedy threatened Kruschev with and the Soviets blinked first.
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How is this news?
Here's a story from 1976
Soviet Bloc Seeks First-Strike Curb On Nuclear Arms; SOVIET BLOC URGING A FIRST-STRIKE CURB
BUCHAREST, Rumania, Nov. 26 The Soviet-led Warsaw Pact proposed today that the West join in an accord to prohibit the first use of nuclear weapons by either side in a conflict.
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True. Right through the 70's and 80's (maybe earlier, only I don't remember any further back) the Russians had a vast superiority in conventional weapons in Europe. First use of nuclear weapons and MAD was the only threat that NATO had to wave at Russia.Originally Posted by Dasayev
Exactly! NATO knew that they had 3 days of conventional battlefield warfare to play with. After that, if the Soviets supply lines had not been disrupted, NATO would have had to resort to tactical, limited theatre nukes - in otherwords, battlefield nukes, so goodnight Germany.True. Right through the 70's and 80's (maybe earlier, only I don't remember any further back) the Russians had a vast superiority in conventional weapons in Europe. First use of nuclear weapons and MAD was the only threat that NATO had to wave at Russia.
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Jesus H!
Dr Strangelove is alive and well - and has several clones on this site.
No, I think things have got a lot worse! - "First Strike" used to be eschewed, now its policy!
And the world was moments from a nuclear winter. What if the russian were as stubborn as the yanks? Is it any kind of security to be MADder than the enemy?
What kind of logic is that?
You can't have nukes because you might use them, and in order to prevent you from getting them, we're going to nuke you.
Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.
How exactly does NATO policy change according to that story? They've always had a first strike policy.
The military men in the article seem more concerned about the future of NATO as a cohesive military alliance rather than inflicting armageddon.
According to this site
Nuclear Files
Should Jihadis take control of Pakistan they don't have the capability of launching a nuclear weapon at Europe or the US. They'd have to transport the weapon by other means. So the whole First Strike option would be unnecessary anyway.Pakistan possesses about 30 nuclear capable surface-to-surface missiles provided by China. Pakistan has built and tested its own ballistic missiles including the Haft-3 (range 600 km) and the Ghauri (range 1500 km).
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