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    Ren84 Ren84 is offline
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    The Syraqi Civil War thread

    With so many threads following events in the Middle East conflicts in Syria and Iraq it can be hard keeping up with all the discussion, much of which follows the same events in both countries. Therefore it is perhaps wise to consolidate the discussions into one thread.

    Syraq has emerged as the new term to describe the conflicts in Syria and Iraq that have now merged into one regional war between Shi'a, Sunnis and other actors such as the Kurds, Turkmen, Christians and other outside influences. With the emergence of ISIS in both Syria and Iraq both wars are now considered part of one conflict, a war that has been intermittently played out for centuries between the two main factions of Islam: Shiaism and Sunnism.

    Right now here is the general state of play in the Levant/Mesopotamia region:





    ISIS itself lays claim to much of "Syraq" but not all of it. Here is their current territorial control:





    Presently Iraqi government forces are pressing north in their attempt to retake towns and cities from ISIS, starting with Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's homeplace, and a major source of recruitment for Sunni militants hostile to the Malaki government.

    Iraqi government forces are continuing an offensive to retake the northern city of Tikrit from Sunni rebels.

    Aircraft have struck at rebel positions and clashes have broken out in various parts of the city, witnesses and officials have said.

    Troops had reportedly pulled back to the nearby town of Dijla as Saturday's initial offensive met stiff resistance.

    The city of Tikrit was captured by Sunni rebels on 11 June as they swept across large parts of northern Iraq.

    "The security forces are advancing from different areas", Lt-Gen Qassem Atta told journalists. "There are ongoing clashes."

    There was fighting in the northern Qadissiyah district, near the university where troops established a foothold in the city a few days ago, witnesses told the Associated Press.

    An unnamed official also told the agency of clashes around an air base formerly used by the US military, Camp Speicher.
    BBC News - Iraq crisis: Fresh clashes over Tikrit

    At the same time Syrian warplanes have taken part in bombing runs inside Iraq, targeting a number of ISIS controlled positions, actions the Malaki government had not requested.

    Previous threads:
    Iraq : Mosul City seized by Al Qaeda
    Is Syria now about to blow?

    Resources:
    Spillover of the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Iraqi insurgency (post-U.S. withdrawal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And let's try to keep the discussion civil and rational.
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    As a sage co-worker once said "there'll be trouble there yet"!
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    ISIS just declared a Caliphate in the last hour or so. No word yet on a minister for tourism.
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    They are separate countries.

    While your continued support for the Saudi/ Qatari and UK backed Terrorists in Syria is noted.

    There is no reason what so ever for a single thread.
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    With any luck it will spread to Iran and then it will be even more hilarious.
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    We already have plenty of threads on these topics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    With any luck it will spread to Iran and then it will be even more hilarious.
    The levant includes Israel right?

    Imagine Israeli and Iranian forces teaming up against a common enemy. I can't imagine how certain quarters would try to spin that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    ISIS just declared a Caliphate in the last hour or so. No word yet on a minister for tourism.

    It was declared at the beginning of the year and they apparently have "ministers", including for education and even agriculture, so that's you sorted once the Global caliphate is eventually achieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    With any luck it will spread to Iran and then it will be even more hilarious.
    Unlikely given Iran's small Sunni population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Murphy View Post
    The levant includes Israel right?

    Imagine Israeli and Iranian forces teaming up against a common enemy. I can't imagine how certain quarters would try to spin that one.
    They "teamed up" in the 80's during the Iran-Iraq War so maybe they'll get together once more in taking on ISIS.
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