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    ISIS defectors flee to southern Turkey as the group suffers in Syria

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...suffers-syria/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Mac View Post
    From that article "– posing significant challenges to a global intelligence community that, for the most part, views them as a hostile and unmanageable threat, and sees limited scope for their reintegration".

    What about their human rights, the rule of law, the citizenship rights many will enjoy in countries like France Belgium or Germany.

    Can they just be abandoned?
    There is no good outcome from this and they bear responsibility for their own predicament. Within the territory of their respective former states, they are entitled to certain rights (although the situation is onerous enough: in some countries levying war against their states would indict them for treason and they're certainly members of an illegal organisation) but in the situation on the battlefield they're just as liable to be killed as any enemy combatant and they don't merit any special consideration. If they have renounced their citizenship then they're not entitled to the rights that usually go with that status.
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    https://www.rt.com/news/403428-deesc...-syria-russia/

    Russia, Iran & Turkey agree on final de-escalation zone in Idlib, Syria

    The US nowhere to be seen - glad the Russians have been able to sort out a lot of the problems in Syria alongside it's sovereign government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Degeneration X View Post
    https://www.rt.com/news/403428-deesc...-syria-russia/

    Russia, Iran & Turkey agree on final de-escalation zone in Idlib, Syria

    The US nowhere to be seen - glad the Russians have been able to sort out a lot of the problems in Syria alongside it's sovereign government.
    The US has no interest in being involved. There's been a huge change in US policy over the last 10 years.
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    Im no fan of putin and assorted propaganda but this 30 minute video from ANNA news about the liberation of dar al zur is fascinating. Fast flowing basic warfare.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb4_1505496977
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    Russian Spetsnaz on way to Deir ez Zor




    Russian MOD today reported that they are crossed Euphrates and created foothold for future advance
    Other Russia sources says that most of the job was done by Tigers and real purpose of Spetsnaz to provide cover for SAA
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    Russian air force reportedly bombed the SDF near Deir Ezzor this morning.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...ezzor-reports/

    BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:12 A.M.) – Either Russian or Syrian airpower has attacked Kurdish-led forces on the eastern bank of the Euphrates river near the Deir Ezzor city area according to reports from both opposition and Kurdish sources.

    The reports say that US-backed troops of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces were attacked by unidentified warplanes – either belonging to the Russian Aerospace Forces or Syrian Arab Air Force – near the al-Sinaa area along the eastern bank of the Euphrates.

    The attack is said to have taken place at about 3 A.M. this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bormotello View Post
    Russian Spetsnaz on way to Deir ez Zor




    Russian MOD today reported that they are crossed Euphrates and created foothold for future advance
    Other Russia sources says that most of the job was done by Tigers and real purpose of Spetsnaz to provide cover for SAA
    Well done Russia
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    Just a post on recent happenings.

    The principle fronts in the war in western Syria, where something like 80% of the population lives, have been largely inactive over the past few months except for a partially successful government assault on the rebel enclave around Damascus. The Idlib front is largely quiet, aside from some raiding and shelling by both sides near Aleppo.
    Inside Idlib, HTS/Nusra has been busy gobbling up the other rebel factions including their former partners Ahrar al Sham.

    In the south, the front around Daraa is basically inactive now, though Israel and Jordan appear to be protecting the rebels from further government advances.

    The quietening of the main fronts has enabled government and pro-Assad forces to concentrate on taking back the more sparsely populated east of the country from ISIS. With a lot of Russian help, both in terms of air power and it looks a lot like, planning and logistics, and using Hezbollah forces on the ground, this has been accomplished fairly rapidly. An ISIS pocket is besieged in Hama province, but the group has been cleared from everywhere else west of the Euphrates with the exception of remaining pocket in Deir Ezzor city.

    Which, incidentally, shows how the rebellion in Syria was what enabled ISIS to emerge in the first place. Note that these developments have largely occurred since Trump ended the US support for the Syria rebels, Turkey has closed the border and the rebels' Gulf allies have been too busy squabbling with each other to further escalate.

    Meanwhile the SDF has been slowly wresting Raqqa city from ISIS with the aid of US air strikes. According to journalist Aris Roussinous, who has recently been embedded with the SDF in Raqqa, there have been some interesting developments recently. The SDF and its Kurdish core the YPG has been intensively recruiting Arab fighters for operations in Raqqa and Deir Ezzor which are outside the Kurdish populated zone. Many of the YPG's most committed fighters have hitherto been PKK guerrillas from Turkey.

    This is an important shift because it shows the SDF, with of course, US backing, has ambitions outside Kurdish autonomy in Syria. Now, while the pro-government forces are taking Deir Ezzor, the SDF is making its own play, establishing a Deir Ezzor military council and moving its forces closer.

    Unless the US and Russia work out some deal, the next stage of the war will very likely be between the SDF and pro-government forces.
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