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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    It is quite amazing how fast this is moving,
    Indeed - lets just hope we don't get suckered in again been told to support the Freedom of 'small' Nations...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    It is quite amazing how fast this is moving,
    Not sure how reliable but Bloomberg is reporting, based on Ukrainian government sources, that the Russian 45th Airborne Division is in Slovyansk. Guess who is 50 KM from that city and preparing for an assault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    Today has saw Ukraine begin its counter offensive against pro Russian forces and its supporters in Eastern Ukraine. Most branches of the Armed Forces appear to be participating, including elements of the newly established National Guard. The White House has given its support:



    Ukraine crisis: Kiev launches 'anti-terror operation' in east

    Map highlighting cities and towns targeted:

    Of all the maps doing the rounds, this one pretty much says it all.

    IMO ethnic Russians will create facts on the ground in the dark orange areas. They may make a play for some of the districts in the dark yellow area. Possibly trading areas close to Kharkiv and/or a land bridge to the Crimea in exchange for a formal withdrawal of interest in other regions including Odessa (a vital land bridge to the Black Sea for Ukraine).

    Does Ukraine want to make an issue of these eastern areas, or cut them loose in exchange for a more homogeneous, coherent Ukraine free of Russian interference?
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    Sufferin fckn cats,

    C4 news running a report on the potential negative impact of sanctions on the City of London, the London property market, and the fckn premiership soccer teams,

    As the world sits on the brink of war,

    A new low for those bunch of morons,
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    Followed up by a pile of very low quality propaganda,
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    Quote Originally Posted by McDave View Post
    Of all the maps doing the rounds, this one pretty much says it all.

    IMO ethnic Russians will create facts on the ground in the dark orange areas. They may make a play for some of the districts in the dark yellow area. Possibly trading areas close to Kharkiv and/or a land bridge to the Crimea in exchange for a formal withdrawal of interest in other regions including Odessa (a vital land bridge to the Black Sea for Ukraine).

    Does Ukraine want to make an issue of these eastern areas, or cut them loose in exchange for a more homogeneous, coherent Ukraine free of Russian interference?

    Have the Sea of Azov entirely inside Russia? That would make sense.
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    Gilmore's threats would have more credibility if it was Michel making them. Gilmore is a joke.

    Michel should offer his services as a mediator between the Ukraine and the Soviet Union.
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    What it comes down to is this- If Putin sends the tanks into the relevant area, will there be a military response from NATO? Everything else is posturing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    Sufferin fckn cats,

    C4 news running a report on the potential negative impact of sanctions on the City of London, the London property market, and the fckn premiership soccer teams,

    As the world sits on the brink of war,

    A new low for those bunch of morons,
    Ukraine at the very least is already in a technical state of war with Russia, with elements of the Russian military occupying parts of eastern Ukraine and all of the Ukrainian region of Crimea. Meanwhile on Saturday last a Russian fighter played chicken with a US Naval Destroyer in the Black Sea. "Brink"? We're already at war soldier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odlum View Post
    Gilmore's threats would have more credibility if it was Michel making them. Gilmore is a joke.

    Michel should offer his services as a mediator between the Ukraine and the Soviet Union.
    Russian Federation. "Ukraine and the Russian Federation...".
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