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    Ratio Et Fides Ratio Et Fides is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedfreak View Post
    While there may be a minority in Israel who hold similar opinions as are mainstream in Ireland, their underlying assumptions are very different. Here is a good summary. Debunking 25 left-wing and Arab myths from a left-wing Arab perspective | The Blogs
    Speedfreak admit that the only problem you have Hitler and his thugs was that they were nasty to Jews, and maybe that they lost, otherwise I am sure you find them deeply impressive. Do not answer now but think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedfreak View Post
    While there may be a minority in Israel who hold similar opinions as are mainstream in Ireland, their underlying assumptions are very different. Here is a good summary. Debunking 25 left-wing and Arab myths from a left-wing Arab perspective | The Blogs
    I won't debate the points he made but I will say that it is not a very well written or convincing piece, from the perspective of what he seems to think he is addressing. In terms of quality it wouldn't be any higher than what you would see produced on a website like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    That argument makes as much sense as using a photo of Lord Haw Haw to argue that means the Brits supported the Nazis.

    It makes perfect sense. You support a genocidal leadership on the Balestinian side. You support a Judenrein Balestine, you support the notion of "From the ribver to the sea Balestine will be free (of jews). To add salt to injury, you also support an armed resistance against the Jewish settlers - thus you can make sure Balestine is Judenrein.

    You spout lies about Israel, to prepare the public opinion for an ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria. You're quite happy with the Gaza being Judenrein. You lies are no better than Goebbels'. And now you boycott Jewish industry and products. Just like good old nazi germany.

    There is a direct connection between the people who support the supporters of the nazis and their legacy (balestinians and their leadership) and the nazis in the past. Let's not forget that you have a monument for Sean Russel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    It makes perfect sense. You support a genocidal leadership on the Balestinian side. You support a Judenrein Balestine, you support the notion of "From the ribver to the sea Balestine will be free (of jews). To add salt to injury, you also support an armed resistance against the Jewish settlers - thus you can make sure Balestine is Judenrein.

    You spout lies about Israel, to prepare the public opinion for an ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria. You're quite happy with the Gaza being Judenrein. You lies are no better than Goebbels'. And now you boycott Jewish industry and products. Just like good old nazi germany.

    There is a direct connection between the people who support the supporters of the nazis and their legacy (balestinians and their leadership) and the nazis in the past. Let's not forget that you have a monument for Sean Russel.

    Perhaps in a two state solution Jews and Arabs could migrate to each others state by normal immigration channels as exist between other countries. But the ownership of the land must return to the original owners that can be documented, not some unproven connection thousands of years ago, that in truth even if existing ,might actually apply to Palestinian descendents of Jewish converts to Islam anyway.

    You seem blissfully unaware of what happened that led to the Geneva Conventions, because if you knew you would not be doing the same thing to the Palestinians.
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    The issue of the Jewish settlements on 2% of the West Bank while important is quite obviously a red herring.

    Understanding the Arab-Israeli Conflict | Arab and other Quotations




    Sure, make it Judenrein like Gaza. But what comes next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Perhaps in a two state solution Jews and Arabs could migrate to each others state by normal immigration channels as exist between other countries. But the ownership of the land must return to the original owners that can be documented, not some unproven connection thousands of years ago, that in truth even if existing ,might actually apply to Palestinian descendents of Jewish converts to Islam anyway.

    You seem blissfully unaware of what happened that led to the Geneva Conventions, because if you knew you would not be doing the same thing to the Palestinians.

    Yea sure. Lets celebrate love. 800,000 Jews fled arab muslim countries when Israel was established and even before. Today people remember the Frahood riots against the Jews of Baghdad.

    And you think Jews can live in Arab areas?

    But that doesn't whitewash the fact that you and your pals in Irish leftistic circles have been calling for a Judenrein, just like the german nazis.

    And the territories are in the hands of the original owners. The Jews are the indigenous people in this land.

    Arabs - as their family names show - are immigrants from arab and muslim countries. They have no right to throw Jews out, and they, in fact, have no right to commit genocide against the Jews.

    They have lost any right (if they ever had one) to this land.

    They are in what they call "home", but there is no connection to this land. No common background.

    I know what happened that led to the Geneva Conventions. They don't apply here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedfreak View Post
    The issue of the Jewish settlements on 2% of the West Bank while important is quite obviously a red herring.

    Understanding the Arab-Israeli Conflict | Arab and other Quotations




    Sure, make it Judenrein like Gaza. But what comes next.
    Of course with his warm and loving heart which strove to serve others through out the world but particularly in his beloved Africa which has suffered from his loss he could never accept the existence of Zionist colonial project- that though is very different from saying no Jews can live in Palestine, he was clear Jews can live in Palestine as part of a Palestinian State and a Palestinian people but not as a colonial project. The Palestinian people are very warm and loving people- why don't you get to know them? Because lets face it you don't want to get to know them, getting to them would hurt maybe to many illusions that you have. Better to just paint them as demonic other and invent any slander you can to heap upon them. The damage of Ghaddafi's is still a gaping wound and no amount of propaganda links for you can change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    It makes perfect sense. You support a genocidal leadership on the Balestinian side. You support a Judenrein Balestine, you support the notion of "From the ribver to the sea Balestine will be free (of jews). To add salt to injury, you also support an armed resistance against the Jewish settlers - thus you can make sure Balestine is Judenrein.

    You spout lies about Israel, to prepare the public opinion for an ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria. You're quite happy with the Gaza being Judenrein. You lies are no better than Goebbels'. And now you boycott Jewish industry and products. Just like good old nazi germany.

    There is a direct connection between the people who support the supporters of the nazis and their legacy (balestinians and their leadership) and the nazis in the past. Let's not forget that you have a monument for Sean Russel.

    The historian Manus O'Riordan who is a Yiddish speaker and a friend of the Jewish people in Ireland finds no evidence that Russell was an anti-Semite. https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/l...rmany-1.375398

    You know as much about Irish history as my goldfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
    Of course with his warm and loving heart which strove to serve others through out the world but particularly in his beloved Africa which has suffered from his loss he could never accept the existence of Zionist colonial project- that though is very different from saying no Jews can live in Palestine, he was clear Jews can live in Palestine as part of a Palestinian State and a Palestinian people but not as a colonial project. The Palestinian people are very warm and loving people- why don't you get to know them? Because lets face it you don't want to get to know them, getting to them would hurt maybe to many illusions that you have. Better to just paint them as demonic other and invent any slander you can to heap upon them. The damage of Ghaddafi's is still a gaping wound and no amount of propaganda links for you can change that.
    Does she understand that it's hard to read so much crap when it's put in a densely written text?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12 bens View Post
    The historian Manus O'Riordan who is a Yiddish speaker and a friend of the Jewish people in Ireland finds no evidence that Russell was an anti-Semite. https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/l...rmany-1.375398

    You know as much about Irish history as my goldfish.
    Maybe your goldfish is a friend of the Historian Manus O'Riordan too?
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