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    Model for Iraq was Ireland

    Great article on the current tactics being used in Iraq and how they relate to Ireland

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=4869

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    Yes. thousands of people died in Ireland.
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    Yeas, a whole four course meal for thought. Perhaps it makes the example of the success of the Northern peace process all the more salient a template for success in its Middle Eastern counterpart?
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    Yes, it is always about us, the Irish. Particularly when the article is written on some mumbo-jumbo left wing web site with the same level of credibility as FOX news and, and suprise suprise, the author has an Irish name. He is probabley walking around Trinity right now, in check pants, wondering where he can find 'Kelly's Book.'

    As we should all know from doing our Inter (Junior) Cert history, 'Divide and Conquer' was deployed by the Romans with great effect long before anyone was bothered making the small effort to divide and conquer us Irish. The Greeks probabley did the same before them. But what the hell, never let the facts get in the way of an excuse to bash the Brits, the Israelis or the Americans.

    The fact the the author is advertised as being a lecturer in journalism does make me chuckle however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason
    Yes, it is always about us, the Irish. Particularly when the article is written on some mumbo-jumbo left wing web site with the same level of credibility as FOX news and, and suprise suprise, the author has an Irish name. He is probabley walking around Trinity right now, in check pants, wondering where he can find 'Kelly's Book.'

    As we should all know from doing our Inter (Junior) Cert history, 'Divide and Conquer' was deployed by the Romans with great effect long before anyone was bothered making the small effort to divide and conquer us Irish. The Greeks probabley did the same before them. But what the hell, never let the facts get in the way of an excuse to bash the Brits, the Israelis or the Americans.

    The fact the the author is advertised as being a lecturer in journalism does make me chuckle however.

    But his main point was the Brits used divide and conquer all over the world - with horrendous results for humanity. Are you saying he was wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel
    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason
    Yes, it is always about us, the Irish. Particularly when the article is written on some mumbo-jumbo left wing web site with the same level of credibility as FOX news and, and suprise suprise, the author has an Irish name. He is probabley walking around Trinity right now, in check pants, wondering where he can find 'Kelly's Book.'

    As we should all know from doing our Inter (Junior) Cert history, 'Divide and Conquer' was deployed by the Romans with great effect long before anyone was bothered making the small effort to divide and conquer us Irish. The Greeks probabley did the same before them. But what the hell, never let the facts get in the way of an excuse to bash the Brits, the Israelis or the Americans.

    The fact the the author is advertised as being a lecturer in journalism does make me chuckle however.

    But his main point was the Brits used divide and conquer all over the world - with horrendous results for humanity. Are you saying he was wrong?
    No, his main point is that the Israelis are using the Brits strategy in Ireland as a blueprint for their activities in the occupied terroritries. However he presents no evidence for his argument. The Divide and Conquer concept had been around for thousands of years, the Israelis would be fools to not use it and don't need education from the Brits on the topic. What he is actually attempting to do is a cheap propangand trick to link the Israelis to all the ills of the British Empire.
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    The Irish actually used it on themselves too. Like when meath was frequently divided into two provinces (or sometimes externally united to provide a bulwark), or when deasmumhan was resurrected against tuadhmumhan by Toirdhealbhach Ua Conchobhair, and likewise done with leinster. It was a tactic that pre-dated the English for a good two centuries.
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    The british army has already stated that they are using NI tactics in Iraq, the british army is already arming people in Iraq just as they done loyalists and before you know it they will be looking to partition the country with the wealthy part under their control.
    Same tactics just to a larger extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason
    The Divide and Conquer concept had been around for thousands of years, the Israelis would be fools to not use it and don't need education from the Brits on the topic.
    The Israelis would be fools not to use it? At least you admit that their intention is to conquer.

    Its also refreshing that you admit that the Israeli state have no respect for human rights or democracy.
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