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    Jesuit accuses nun of having a pro-Assad agenda:-

    Nun on Irish visit accused of peddling 'regime lies' about crisis in Syria - The Irish Times - Sat, Aug 18, 2012

    AN ITALIAN Jesuit expelled from Syria in June due to his outspoken criticism of government violence has accused a controversial nun who visited Ireland last week of peddling “regime lies” about the crisis there.
    And who should pop up helping spread this BS except one of our very own " pro-Palestinian " outfits:

    Mother Agnes Mariam’s trip to Ireland was organised by Alan Lonergan, who acts as churches liaison officer with Sadaka, an Irish pro-Palestinian advocacy group, though he arranged the visit in a personal capacity.
    It seems any despot can get a pass from Irelands anti-Zionists as long as they have a good track record of launching wars on Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Jesuit accuses nun of having a pro-Assad agenda:-

    Nun on Irish visit accused of peddling 'regime lies' about crisis in Syria - The Irish Times - Sat, Aug 18, 2012

    AN ITALIAN Jesuit expelled from Syria in June due to his outspoken criticism of government violence has accused a controversial nun who visited Ireland last week of peddling “regime lies” about the crisis there.
    And who should pop up helping spread this BS except one of our very own " pro-Palestinian " outfits:

    Mother Agnes Mariam’s trip to Ireland was organised by Alan Lonergan, who acts as churches liaison officer with Sadaka, an Irish pro-Palestinian advocacy group, though he arranged the visit in a personal capacity.
    It seems any despot can get a pass from Irelands anti-Zionists as long as they have a good track record of launching wars on Israel.
    I wouldn't expect a Jesuit to indulge in ad hominem as his first resort, he seems to have less class than the nun he's attacking. Perhaps it means that's his best argument.

    She has been consistent in assuming and spreading the lies of the regime, and promoting it through the power of her religious persona,” he told The Irish Times yesterday. “She knows how to cover up the brutality of the regime.”

    During her four-day visit to Ireland last week, Mother Agnes Mariam, who is superior at the Melkite Greek Catholic monastery in Syria, gave media interviews in which she claimed Christians in Syria were facing “extinction” and that rebels battling Assad were predominantly foreigners linked with al-Qaeda.

    Fr Dall’Oglio, who has spent time with opposition activists in several restive parts of Syria, said these claims were “ridiculous” and constituted regime propaganda.

    “I have been there, I know the people, including the youth, who are working for the revolution, and I know that what she is saying is insane. It corresponds with the regime version of the facts,” he said.
    Er, has anyone taken a look at the 'Free Syrian Army' recently? And he calls her insane!

    I quoted him above, speaking as a guest of The New America Foundation’s Middle East Task Force and the Syrian American Council.
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    Bearing Witness to Syria
    Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 12:15pm - 1:45pm
    The New America Foundation’s Middle East Task Force and the Syrian American Council held a discussion with Rev. Paolo Dall’Oglio and youth activist Hadeel Kouki on the situation inside Syria and future prospects for the country. ...

    ... It’s time, Kouki and Paolo emphasized, for international intervention. “I am not a political expert,” Kouki acknowledged, “ But I think it’s unfortunately the only way now to reach where we’re going. The violence of the regime is more and more everyday, so of course we need some help to support the Free Syrian Army.”

    Paolo echoed her plea for help, calling on Russia to join the United Nations in supporting a free Syria. “We need international civil society to send peacekeepers and activists to help [Syrian] society go into democracy the right way,” he said.
    I suppose he means Russia [and China] should accede to NATO-GCC plans to handle Syria as they did Libya.

    However, Syrian Christians still tend to support the Assad regime, they've probably had a closer look at the 'Free Syrian Army' than Dall’Oglio wishes to, but this is how he explains that away:

    Syria’s Churches and the future prospects of a tormented country
    , vaticaninsider.lastampa.it, 07/12/2012
    Fr. Paolo Dall’Oglio who for over thirty years has been busy working on a pioneering project run by the community of Mar Musa. Fr. Dall’Oglio was recently sent out of the country by the government because it was not happy with his support of a regime change. Speaking to news agencies yesterday, the Jesuit praised the Pope’s appeals for a peaceful, non-violent solution to the Syrian crisis, underlining the positive efforts of the Apostolic Nuncio to Damascus, Mgr. Mario Zenari. However, he also confessed his complete lack of trust in the Assad regime which he initially believed was capable of introducing significant reforms. Fr. Dall’Oglio also addressed a key theme which has emerged again and again over the past months: despite the fact that some Christians support the rebels, the vast majority, starting with Catholics, remain loyalists.

    This choice is probably due to the long tradition of protection given to the Christian minority by a minority regime, starting with the Alawis, which Assad’s family are members of. According to Dall’Oglio, the Syrian Catholic community, which is split into a number of rites, seems to have traded civil rights and hopes for the country’s improvement, for tranquillity and a “controlled” religious freedom which is instrumental to the regime’s interests.
    Regarding Russia, they point to the UN observers pulling out as an ominous development:
    Moscow expresses concern as UN mission in Syria ends - RT News
    The Russian Foreign Ministry has expressed concern over the decision made by the UN Security Council not to extend the UN observer mission in Syria, while Moscow has scheduled a meeting with the Syrian deputy prime minister.
    "We express concern over the declared impossibility of extending the (UN observer mission) mandate due to the position taken by some Security Council members," the Foreign Ministry said in a report posted on its website on Friday.
    Russia continues to support the Kofi Annan plan, which called for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire between government troops and opposition rebels.
    "We believe it is important to maintain the UN presence in Syria, which is aimed at resolving the crisis in Syria within the framework of Kofi Annan's plan and the Geneva agreements reached by the Action Group for Syria," the report said.
    Russia argued that the presence of UN peacekeepers in Syria, “helped reduce violence in the country," especially at the initial stage, the report said.
    Turkey and the US have both hinted at plans for a 'no-fly zone' (or free-fire zone as NATO interpreted the Security Council resolution on Libya), but having abused the Libyan resolution Russia and China don't look like giving NATO any semblance of a UN mandate. So they'll probably have to seek other justifications to step their intervention co-ordinated with the GCC (Saudi Arabia, Qatar/UAE).

    NATO are pulling the plug on UN diplomacy and gearing up from covert action to direct intervention. They've got their 'findings', to provide cause for intervention, so they're happy to pull the plug on the observers.

    The Russians have 'expressed concern' because they know what to expect, most likely massive escalation from NATO-GCC and their proxies in the 'Free Syrian Army'.
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    mary_queen_of_the_gael mary_queen_of_the_gael is offline

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    Syria's Christians for Democracy seem to be a hollow sham.
    Alan Lonergan, who acts as churches liaison officer with Sadaka, an Irish pro-Palestinian advocacy group
    One would hardly expect their spokesperson on Co Leitrim to organise it. Lonergan would be the obvious choice and one would go to if organising such a tour.
    More black propaganda against her and the Syrian and Middle east Christians.

    Good post Harry.

    http://www.catholicsentinel.org/main...rticleID=19011
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramon Mercadar View Post
    You are defaming the good sister.
    The "good sister" has already wrecked her 'credibility' by her ludicrous claims about the Houla massacre. As far as I can see she's up there with Mother Teresa in the nun-credibility stakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoShandor View Post
    The "good sister" has already wrecked her 'credibility' by her ludicrous claims about the Houla massacre. As far as I can see she's up there with Mother Teresa in the nun-credibility stakes.
    That would still put her light years ahead of a British death squad apologist like yourself i nthe overall credibility stakes. Most decent people have no problem with Mother Teresa's credibility. She did get the Nobel Peace Prize and it was not for murdenring Cstholics or fire bombing Vietnamese children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mary_queen_of_the_gael View Post
    That would still put her light years ahead of a British death squad apologist like yourself... .
    Where? Put up or shut up.

    Quote Originally Posted by mary_queen_of_the_gael View Post
    Most decent people have no problem with Mother Teresa's credibility. She did get the Nobel Peace Prize and it was not for murdenring Cstholics or fire bombing Vietnamese children.
    I'm not decent, I guess. Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.
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    Syria: a long war lies ahead | Editorial | Comment is free | The Guardian

    The MI5 controlled Guardian has, what seems like a relatively well balanced editorial today on Syria where, they admit, the foreign Salafists are not having it all their own way as the locals do not want them. The Assad/PKK link up is interesting and is proably a sop to Turkey, Britain's NATO buddy which, oddly for a secular state, has been helping the Salafists undermine Syria.

    Both the Guardian and London Indo seem to agree the Syrian military wil prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyMitchell View Post
    The UN are not to be trusted. Everyone knows that.
    No kidding. Look who the UN recently had in charge there. None other than Kofi Annan, the man who sat twirling his fingers while the UN commander on the ground pled for permission to act to prevent the genocide in Rwanda that was about to unfold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roisin3 View Post
    No kidding. Look who the UN recently had in charge there. None other than Kofi Annan, the man who sat twirling his fingers while the UN commander on the ground pled for permission to act to prevent the genocide in Rwanda that was about to unfold.
    Wasn't Boutros-Boutros Ghali SG then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mary_queen_of_the_gael View Post
    Syria: a long war lies ahead | Editorial | Comment is free | The Guardian

    The MI5 controlled Guardian has, what seems like a relatively well balanced editorial today on Syria where, they admit, the foreign Salafists are not having it all their own way as the locals do not want them. The Assad/PKK link up is interesting and is proably a sop to Turkey, Britain's NATO buddy which, oddly for a secular state, has been helping the Salafists undermine Syria.

    Both the Guardian and London Indo seem to agree the Syrian military wil prevail.
    Thanks for that Mary. It is interesting to note that many of the NATO/Saudi supporters have gone missing.
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