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    Austerity Killing Greece And Wrecking The IMFs Own Solution

    Between Lots of Rocks and Hard Places: Greece's Bad Options - Yahoo! News

    Austerity was supposed to bring down debt levels in Greece, as well as Portugal and Ireland, to sustainable levels but instead they've increased in all three countries. Greece's debt level is especially troubling: it rose to 159.1% of gross domestic product, according to Eurostat, the EU's statistical agency. That makes the IMF's goal of reducing Athens' debt to 120% of GDP by 2020 seem out of reach, analysts say. It is almost like Herakles and the hydra: lop one problem off and more grow in its place.

    "There is now broad agreement among eurozone donors and the IMF that Greece will not be able to squeeze more revenue out of an economy that is in its fourth year of recession,"

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    Meanwhile, beyond the statistics, ordinary Greeks are suffering badly. Even the IMF, an organization that's not known for its human warmth, acknowledged that much. "Much of the criticism from abroad overlooks the fact that Greece has done a lot, at a great cost to the population," the IMF's chief of mission Poul Thomsen recently told the Greek daily Kathimerini. He was speaking about the wage and pension cuts and tax hikes that have angered Greeks so much that some have even protested violently outside parliament.

    Most Greeks don't protest and riot; instead, they have been waiting anxiously for the sacrifices to bear some fruit so the country can have some hope again. As the unemployment rate has doubled, to nearly 19%, and companies are increasingly becoming so broke that they can't pay their workers, many Greeks are frustrated with Europeans saying they're just not trying hard enough.
    Severe cuts, which lead to a drop in GDP, which in turn leads to more austerity measures since the fiscal goals will not be reached due to the cuts and the whole cycle continues until they exit the Eurozone.

    How long until our government realises we are in the exact same cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post
    Between Lots of Rocks and Hard Places: Greece's Bad Options - Yahoo! News



    Severe cuts, which lead to a drop in GDP, which in turn leads to more austerity measures since the fiscal goals will not be reached due to the cuts and the whole cycle continues until they exit the Eurozone.

    How long until our government realises we are in the exact same cycle?
    Austerity will never work. What is happening right now in Greece is the plundering of Greece's resources by the banking elite and the enslavement of the population. We are not far behind.
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    CptSternn?

    Surely this would have done equally well as a post on any of the countless pre-existing Greek threads?
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    jesus astral, are you the forum nazi around here.

    If it isn't spelling, its thread titles or how many threads someone has started in one day...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    Austerity will never work. What is happening right now in Greece is the plundering of Greece's resources by the banking elite and the enslavement of the population. We are not far behind.
    There is no alternative to austerity for Greece in the short to medium term. They either continue with their program and have austerity over a few years or they go with the nuclear option of disorderly default and zero borrowing overnight.
    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballot stuffer View Post
    There is no alternative to austerity for Greece in the short to medium term. They either continue with their program and have austerity over a few years or they go with the nuclear option of disorderly default and zero borrowing overnight.
    Greece could and should have walked away in March 2010 before they agreed to the first bailout.
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    The so called ' medicine ' killing the patient as forcast by so many - simples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    Austerity will never work. What is happening right now in Greece is the plundering of Greece's resources by the banking elite and the enslavement of the population. We are not far behind.
    For the super rich, the preservation of privilege was always a non-negotiable condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballot stuffer View Post
    There is no alternative to austerity for Greece in the short to medium term. They either continue with their program and have austerity over a few years or they go with the nuclear option of disorderly default and zero borrowing overnight.
    Austerity over a few years? They've already had austerity over a few years. What is being imposed is austerity for generations, zero growth, zero jobs, emigration and general decline. When that is compared to the creative destruction of a default one can see why that option starts to look appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    The so called ' medicine ' killing the patient as forcast by so many - simples.

    A perscription of self sufficiency was never going to go down well with a family of layabouts who would not work and earn and lie in bed all day.

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