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About LinkBacksOne day we might even see the end of the unionist "bomb".Originally Posted by Cruimh
One day we might even see the end of the unionist "bomb".
Well not much new here as the Ayattolah is a bit mad around the edge and besides Iran in my opinion has not the ability to do anything off the kind as most off their military hardware is very out dated. The Ayattolah is most likely just doing his bit to keep up the support levels at home. As for war well not for a good while yet I think.
Advances in any field are built upon people with the small or personal view. Give Israel Your support, it needs it.
What is your source for this statement?
"Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense?" -- Patrick Henry, June 9th, 1788
Given that some Irish citizens complain when aid is pledged to people dying of starvation and disease, then yes. Look after ourselves first seems to be the mantra. However, I imagine it very much depends on the country in question....
"The voters have spoken - the basterds." Richard Nixon
Jewish population in Iran was around 80 or 90 thousand at start of revolution. Majority left shortly afterwards. Jewish population estimate now is around 25 thousand.
Do you really think that William Blum lives in the real world? - a 9/11 Toother whose world view was endorsed by Bin Laden.
Beyond the question of would a nuclear Iran pose an existential threat to Israel is the general issue of proliferation - imagine Israel being only one nuclear power of many in the Middle East. Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Egypt - feel free to add in any other candidates. If you and Blum cannot see the extreme undesireability of that scenario then perhaps debate on the issue is futile.As we all know only too well, the United States and Israel would hate to see Iran possessing nuclear weapons. Being "the only nuclear power in the Middle East" is a great card for Israel to have in its hand. But — in the real, non-propaganda world — is USrael actually fearful of an attack from a nuclear-armed Iran?
Regarding the diversity of opinion over the iranian nuclear program within the political and military leadership of Israel and the USA - it reflects the difficulty of trying to reach a concensus on picking the least worst option within a democratic decision making structure.
The assassinations of iranian scientists are generally accepted as israeli actions - I think there is little dispute over that. Panettas comments, in the present tense, are correct.Defense Secretary Panetta recently commented on one of the assassinations of an Iranian scientist. He put it succinctly: "That's not what the United States does."
I think Blum has got this a bit mixed up. I thought it was the iranians who had threated to block the Straits of Hormuz? How are US and EU naval deployments to the Gulf an "act of war"? Rather sensible actions I would think given iranian threats to shut off 20% of global oil supply. And as for Libya lets wait and see - Western actions were better than letting Gadaffi free rein to massacre his opponents. BTW whats Blums take on Syria?The next step may be to block Iran's lifeline — oil sales using the Strait(sic) of Hormuz. Ergo, the recent US and EU naval buildup near the Persian Gulf, an act of war trying to goad Iran into firing the first shot. If Iran tries to counter this blockade it could be the signal for another US Basket Case, the fourth in a decade, with the devastated people of Libya and Afghanistan, along with Iraq, currently enjoying America's unique gift of freedom and democracy.
Tough sanctions are a possible alternative to military action(I deliberately do not say war - I believe the iranian response to airstrikes will be carefully graded to avoid all out conflict) - The costs to Iran of their nuclear ambitions will give others pause for thought.On January 11, the Washington Post reported: "In addition to influencing Iranian leaders directly, [a US intelligence official] says another option here is that [sanctions] will create hate and discontent at the street level so that the Iranian leaders realize that they need to change their ways."
How utterly charming, these tactics and goals for the 21st century by the leader of "The Free World". (Is that expression still used?)
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[QUOTE=Sangreel;4908281]Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel
I do not see anything good about this. Nothing at all.
[B]The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people. The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide.[/B]
First of all, I don't think the WND is an Iranian proxy judging by all the jewish named contributors on the right of the page.Secondly, all this bull is constsantly being put out about Iran to stoke up American feelings for war. As usual most of the idiots believe everything they read
[QUOTE=Clanrickard;4908776]Bull. For a start all, irrespective of religious ethos, schools must have a Muslim principal so none of the above can be a school principal. In fact Jewish schools must open on Saturday the Jewish Sabbath Some are not so comfortable like the 18 of them that have been executed for "spying" since the Mad Mullahs took over.
Oh they have to do stuff on the sabbath...big ffing deal...get over it! And also, maybe the 18 were actually spying or do you think the Israelis would never do something like that/
???? wtf???? Some people really understand the Middle East
Glad to see you're finally getting the hang of the quote function.
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