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    Quote Originally Posted by blacbloc View Post
    Course this whole Western-concocted war with Iran is about securing massive oil and other resource profits - a la le banking crisis, you me and everybody else will pay for it dearly: increased oil costs will ruin our economy further, the trillion dollar cost of the arms etc paid for out of our taxes (Lisbon made it obligatory for member states to contribute) and in the lost lives of soldiers and civilians - to say nothing of the even greater number of maimings and destruction. Oil barons, like bankers, insist on socialising the cost of their wars while keeping the profits to themselves.
    We (EU) have still not copped on. In the NATO bombing of Libya, the true nature of the problem with ageing EU was there for all to see. They could not afford the cost of the bombs.

    Our leaders are missing a vital ingredient that enables them make wise decisions - we Irish are now among the most bombed out people on this planet. Don't be fooled that our buildings are not flattened to the ground. Yet, we have the audacity to pick a row with the Iranians, the Iraqis; the cradle of civilization! Iran set to ban exports of oil to EU countries.
    The Irish are now in a very precarious position; I am not sure if our leaders are even aware. If conflagration again flares in the Middle East, there will be more pressure on the EU to commit money and resources, as the American people (to which you correctly alluded to above) have had enough of austerity married with bodybags. What have we got left? This is where our modern leaders have been as blind as bats in allowing this country be drowned in debt. Did they or their advisers have a clue of the machinations of the political world, out from their strutting like peacocks at various world conventions of leaders.

    People from Mayo do not sit down under problems created by Leinster House. This is very evident from the mass emigration throughout the 20th Century. It is not in our nature to predict doom and gloom. But knowledge and realism is something that we have a little of. We know what it is like to loose the vibrant, energetic section of our population. We implore Leinster House to come out of the stupor created by the drug of the Celtic Tiger! Let it examine the increasing ‘out of kilter’ demographics. This time the whole country is loosing its future young men and women. There is a real danger that something akin to a ‘reverse domino birth-rate effect’ will wipe out the Celtic Irish Race, and note it has already begun!

    Concentrating on Growth Centres is only yielding to this culture of seemingly invisible self-destruction. Unless we change our social doctrine, Western Civilisation will be sitting ducks for opposing culture groupings throughout the 21st Century. Western Society is so weakened through use of artificial birth control practices that it could be a couple of centuries before the harm is righted, if we start righting it now. Material/Capitalism growth as an end in itself should be put on the back burner, because of our past great inability to manage it properly. The more we go to war, the greater the damage to ourselves! The situation must have appeared hopeless when Padraic Pearse marched into the G.P.O. but he had ideals. Is a society with great wealth and no future worth fighting for? Even Hitler had an ideal of a society that would last a thousand years! His methods were wrong. But he cared for the future of his race. His nation rose again a few years after they suffered a great defeat, because there were lots of children! We have got to examine ourselves. It appears that the West will stop bombing for periods during Ramadan; maybe we can stop for Lent too and inter a period of self-examination.

    Where are all the academics, accountants, lawyers, economists, solicitors, newspaper reporters, third level educated people; all experts at reading long term trends for analysing companies etc in the midst of all the foregoing? Come on lads and lassies, surely what is being written about is not that difficult a concept! THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING! This modern leaning towards the production of technocrats away from the Thinking disciplines is alarming. How much more has to be said? -------- Ireland is the only democracy in the Western World that demographically has the young men to go to war…----------… ahhhhhhh for goodness sake! ------Wake Up! Ireland is in a unique situation; we still have a generation that realises what is happening and observing the experiences of other Western Economies can back up this realism. It is ironic that in an era of so-called greater co-operation in Europe, its people have never being so blind as to the dire consequences of their present lifestyle. From Editorial Mayo Association Yearbook 2002
    And from the same Editorial

    Ireland will loose jobs and business over the near future. This can be viewed as an opportunity to correct the shift in our underlying social policies that has so weakened the rest of the Capitalist World. Capitalism is a great system, but it has a finite existence as a result of the suicide policies pursued by the rulers of the Western Hemisphere throughout the latter half of the twentieth century. As a result, Capitalism can now only function properly coupled with a continual decrease in birth rates and massive immigration. Ireland currently is one of the few nations in the Western World that demographically can afford to send its young men to war! One shudders at the ease with which the modern Leinster House seemed to bend under international pressure and ignore sound principles of human existence!

    The pressure is going to be horrific! Our economy is now showing severe signs of strain. Where does our leader go running for help? Why to the U.S.A., as if they do not have enough troubles already. Our emigrants found solace and refuge from past Leinster House policies in the U.S.A; they are now citizens of that country and it is there that their priorities lie. Do the government not realise the gravity of the international situation now facing us? We will be caught in the dangerous eddy as the great Western Economies go into rapid decline, caused by the hidden power of demographics and not any highly visible terrorist deed. The hole that Leinster House is digging is getting deeper and the further down they go, the less opportunity for movement. A former leader had much firmer foundations to stand on, when he resisted international pressure. Leinster House now, more than ever for the sake of our future, our young workforce, badly need a stabilising influence.
    Our leaders have been sailing the neoliberal free-market ideology stream now for well over a quarter century, and without a care in the world.
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    Today the IMF have suggested that if Europe refuses to import Iranian oil, or if Iran decides to stop exporting to Europe, crude oil prices will increase by 30%.

    http://articles.economictimes.indiat...ply-disruption
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler View Post
    Today the IMF have suggested that if Europe refuses to import Iranian oil, or if Iran decides to stop exporting to Europe, crude oil prices will increase by 30%.

    Halt in Iran oil could push crude up 30%: IMF - Economic Times
    No, it was 5 days ago!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawdy View Post
    Hey DOOFUS! NEWS FLASH! The IAEA have been there and are there again today!
    Their current visit has perhaps the potential to start a process but more than likely it will be just another Persian run around. The IAEA need access to all sites of interest - without it their reports are of limited value. If the iranians are true to their word they could easily prove it and this situation would be resolved without confrontation.

    But the IAEA team led by chief inspector Herman Nackaerts and the Vienna-based body's number two, Rafael Grossi, will not be given access to any sites mentioned in a damning report by the agency in November, experts say.

    "This is not a verification mission," Olli Heinonen, Nackaerts' predecessor and now at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School in the United States, told AFP.

    "I don't think we should expect too much."

    "My impression from the Iranian public statements is that this is talks about talks. If you look at who is going, it is not an overly technical team."

    "I don't expect anything fundamental on the main issues," agreed Bruno Tertrais, senior research fellow at the Foundation for Strategic Research (FRS) in Paris.

    Even if Nackaerts gets back to Vienna with Iranian promises of a new era of cooperation ringing in his ears, the list of previous false dawns -- and of occasions where Iran was less than open with the agency -- is long.
    Lebanon news - NOW Lebanon -Expectations low for IAEA visit to Iran

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