AIPAC's new definition of "anti-Semitism"

[L'Chaim]

You are constantly making comparisons between Iranian government policies and the policies of the Nazis. If your arguments are good then you don't have to do that. Doing that is at best lazy and probably based in anti-Iranianism.

You should give me examples. Post some links. But racism was the main element or factor in Nazism. It was the same with apartheid. Without racism then neither systems meant anything. All their policies stemmed from racism. Israel is a multiracial, multiethnic and multireligious state, made up of Europeans, Arabs, Africans, Russians and many many others. There is no segregation or discrimination based on race or religion in Israeli government policies. Iran's regime, on the other hand, does have policies based in racism.

[L'Chaim]

I thought anti-semitism was about hating jews?
Google Define: Antisemitism
Definition for antisemitism:
Web definitions:
anti-Semitism: the intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people.
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

I see no mention of Israel?

Are you indeed also conflating legitimate criticism of Israel with anti-semitism?

Israel is the only Jewish state in the world. To attempt to delegitimize that state is antisemitic.

[sondagefaux]

Criticism of Israel is in itself not antisemitic. In fact criticism of any government is very important. But when someone, like in the OP link, equates Israel with apartheid then you would have to wonder what is the motive behind doing that.

Their motive? Possibly it's a genuinely held political point of view, with which you're free to disagree?

Their arguments against Israeli policy should be strong enough to stand on their own merits without that type of equating. It's the same with equating Israeli government policies with the policies of the Nazis. If your arguments are good then you don't have to do that. Doing that is at best lazy and probably based in antisemitism.

Gotta watch out for these anti-semites. They're everywhere!

Approximately 1,500 ultra-Orthodox men gathered at Shabbat Square in the capital’s Geula neighborhood on Saturday night to protest what they called the “oppression” and “incitement” of the “secular community” against them.

Dozens of men wore yellow Stars of David on their jackets with the word “Jude” in the center, and banners bearing slogans such as “Zionists are not Jews” and “Zionism is racism” were paraded at the rally.

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Directives from the stage urged protesters not to speak with the press, and at one point men gathered around a camera crew in an attempt to force them to wear yellow stars.

The crew retreated to a police cordon.

Angry crowds also followed uniformed police, shouting at them and calling them “Nazis.”

“It’s like how it started with the Nazis – very slowly,” American yeshiva student Salomon Hoberman said, defending the use of the yellow stars.

Ultra-Orthodox protest

But not to worry! The freedom-loving State of Israel is on the case!

A new bill would make it illegal to call someone a Nazi or wear a yellow star as a form of protest in Israel.

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that the measure, which passed a preliminary vote this week, would include a prison term of up to six months and a maximum fine of $26,000 for offenders.

Bill to ban calling people Nazis in Israel - New York Daily News

[Garland Names the Skies]

Israel is the only Jewish state in the world. To attempt to delegitimize that state is antisemitic.

What's a "jewish state"? I've heard of nation states and city states. but never a city called "Jewish" or a nationality called "Jew"

[L'Chaim]

So it's not fair/anti-semitic and an unworthy argument to draw comparisons,uncomfortable as they may be? A strong military power organising the deliberate ghettoisation of a disenfranchised indigenous people.....Warsaw,West Bank or Soweto.Or 1960's Derry,for that matter. It's not anti-semitic,it's just plain WRONG.
By the way,aren't Palestinians Semites too? So we can add hijacking as well.

That might be true if you overlook the fact that Israel is a multiracial state comprised of many of the same people you claim are indigenous people, who have the same rights as all other citizens of the state.

[EoinMag]

Israel is the only Jewish state in the world. To attempt to delegitimize that state is antisemitic.

Wow, and you call others lazy.

Calling it a Jewish state is surely the equivalent of calling Apartheid era South Africa a white state, and suggesting that it has things in common with Apartheid, no?

Surely a state that would position itself as Jewish whereby it has not only jews in its population is yearning for a situation that is very similar to Apartheid, you do know what Apartheid means right? Apartness, seperation. Surely harking to Apartheid comparisons is fair in this state, by your very own argument and choice of words?

You agreed in part with the OP and yet you play the same word games, are you able to square that circle?

[meriwether]

That might be true if you overlook the fact that Israel is a multiracial state comprised of many of the same people you claim are indigenous people, who have the same rights as all other citizens of the state.

While at the same time is a Jewish state.

[ScreeOrTalus]

meh

This post comes to you from the sunny meh-ditto-Iranian.

[L'Chaim]

What's a "jewish state"? I've heard of nation states and city states. but never a city called "Jewish" or a nationality called "Jew"

Israel is a Jewish state, just as many other states define themselves as Muslim or Christian or something else. And nationhood is a component of Judaism. There are four - God, Torah, nationhood and Chosenness

[seabhcan]

[QUOTE=L'Chaim;4843609]There is no segregation or discrimination based on race or religion in Israeli government policies.[\quote]

Thats not how it seems from here.

Iran's regime, on the other hand, does have policies based in racism.

How so? Iran is quite dysfunctional and corrupt, but I don't see how it especially or notably racist. Certainly it is not a paradise, but lets be clear, Israel has never had problems dealing with repressive regimes. Israel's sole objection to Iran is that it is a regional geo-political rival. Israel had no objection to the Iranian nuclear weapons program before 1979 because Iran was an allay back then. Israel objects to Iran because it is the only nation in the region that could challenge Israel's regional power.