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    Given the aims of the 'Price Tag' movement are broadly in line with those of Likud/Shas, its hard to describe them as "the enemy within". Given the price taggers are represented by Shas, it does seem the Likud is being outflanked. In merging their agenda in the Knesset, Shas and Likud produced a majority government capable of fulfilling both their agendas. But the addition of radicals on the ground pushing the Shas agenda further, makes Likud look weak and simply to be doing the bidding of their junior government partner. The issues surrounding the price tag indidents are putting daylight between Shas and Likud. They might also make Netenyahu look weak. One wonders if their is anyone in the wings who can steer Likuds security policy away from being dependent on Shas's goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyelight View Post
    It's exposed a double standard which belies the "all are equal within Israel" and "only democracy in the Middle East" mantras.
    The IDF has decided it can fire on Jews now.
    Seems that up to now Jews have had some sort of immunity from being shot by the army.
    Or maybe they still have that immunity.

    Commander to soldiers: Never fire at Jews
    Briefing Golani troops after outpost evacuation company commander says 'no matter what happens, no one shoots at Jews'

    A company commander in Golani's 13th Battalion instructed his soldiers that under no circumstance are they to fire at Jews ahead of a possible clash with settlers, Ynet learned Monday.

    Following the raid on the Ephraim Brigade base last month during which one officer was lightly injured, former Defense Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer advocated shooting at anyone who puts the lives of IDF soldiers in danger, regardless of religion or citizenship.

    On Thursday, a day after the security forces and Civil Administration evacuated the Mitzpe Avihai outpost, Golani soldiers were briefed by their company commander. "We're in for a rocky Saturday, so stay alert," he told the troops. "In any case, no matter what happens, let the world burn down for all I care, nobody opens fire at Jews! We don't want a civil war."
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyelight View Post
    Or maybe they still have that immunity.

    Commander to soldiers: Never fire at Jews
    Briefing Golani troops after outpost evacuation company commander says 'no matter what happens, no one shoots at Jews'
    Astonishing direction to give to soldiers.

    Ultimately, they are defenceless against extreme forms of violence. Their lives may well be endangered by this instruction.

    Interesting to note his comment on 'civil war'.

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    I don't suppose that all the links to the problem are from Haaretz would light any dim bulbs around here.
    The Irish are not a serious people. Colm McCarthy to Miriam O'Callaghan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    I don't suppose that all the links to the problem are from Haaretz would light any dim bulbs around here.
    Is that the newspaper we all don't like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether View Post
    Is that the newspaper we all don't like?
    The self-haters, don't ya know.
    "Only by applying the most rigorous standards do we pay writing in Irish the supreme compliment of taking it seriously." - Breandán Ó Doibhlín.

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    Israel is working to deal with these attacks. The reason for these attacks is that Israel is demolishing illegal settlements and the settlers in these settlements are reacting to that. They are a small number of Israelis and they are condemned by politicians, the majority of Israelis and the majority of settlers in Judea and Samaria. In response to these rioters the Israeli government has introduced policies to deal with anyone caught carrying out these attacks. Measures include immediate issuing of administrative detention orders against rioters; immediately increasing the number of those barred from various areas; trying rioters in military courts; giving IDF soldiers the authority to detain people; and increasing both the number of special Israeli Security Authority, Israel Police, IDF and State Attorney's Office investigation teams and the resources for investigations.
    Fight terror, support Israel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether View Post
    Is that the newspaper we all don't like?
    The very one.
    The Irish are not a serious people. Colm McCarthy to Miriam O'Callaghan.

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    L'Chaim's weasel words from Tel Aviv Central cannot disguise the criminal acts of successive Israeli governments that have encouraged
    waves of religiously disturbed maniacs into the lives of peaceful Palestinian people. Imagine if your government had recruited such people
    and let them loose in your neighbourhood. Might you be a tad annoyed? I detest all unnecessary violence but the guilt, such as the
    terrible killings of a settler family recently lies with the criminal Israeli government and its apologists like L'Chaim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    Israel is working to deal with these attacks. The reason for these attacks is that Israel is demolishing illegal settlements and the settlers in these settlements are reacting to that. They are a small number of Israelis and they are condemned by politicians, the majority of Israelis and the majority of settlers in Judea and Samaria. In response to these rioters the Israeli government has introduced policies to deal with anyone caught carrying out these attacks. Measures include immediate issuing of administrative detention orders against rioters; immediately increasing the number of those barred from various areas; trying rioters in military courts; giving IDF soldiers the authority to detain people; and increasing both the number of special Israeli Security Authority, Israel Police, IDF and State Attorney's Office investigation teams and the resources for investigations.
    But not dealing with them the way they'd deal with a non-Jew behaving the same way?

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