I thought this was some sop to the allow some labour people to pretend labour has ethics
but they really said it Shannon proposed as hub for global aid - The Irish Times - Wed, Nov 23, 2011
so they could well have soldiers going through Shannon to invade and bomb a place and then have aid going through to them from the same Airport, the hypocrisy of the Irish state knows no bounds.
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Vertical integration.
We're in an age of austerity. It makes total commercial sense to ship the troops and the aid on the same planes. Have to start realising synergies!
If you're the first out the door, that's not called panicking.
tut tut , that makes no sense.Originally Posted by Sync
you don't realise synergies, you leverage them
Isn't it a real case of bullsh1t bingo cloaking a naked parochial agenda? We're told "The Minister of State for Trade and Development, Jan O’Sullivan, confirmed last month that she had met airport management over the issue and said there was “considerable potential” for the development of Shannon."
Can I suggest an alternative context? Jan O’Sullivan, who made election promises stating “ … it is widely expected that Jan will be a Minister in the next Government. Limerick needs a Senior Minister at the cabinet table. A Minister who will do something about Shannon Airport. ...”, pushes for this load of ballsology.
Any gombeen election promises?
Not to be outdone, "Clare Fine Gael TD Joe Carey said: “I believe that it makes perfect sense to have a country such as ours as a base for EU humanitarian aid. As I understand it, currently much of that humanitarian aid is stored in Malaysia and I see no reason why it should not be stored in Europe, within closer proximity to its source.”"
Of course, Joe totally contradicts what (up to this) Irish Aid have said about the location of such stores.This an attempt at blatant gombeen profiteering from other people's misery. Is there no depth to which they won't sink?Irish Aid - Our Work - Rapid Response Initiative
.... Ideally, supplies should be sourced as close to a disaster as possible in order to minimise transport and other costs, and to benefit local markets.
..... UNHRD Depots are based in:
• Brindisi, Italy (Europe)
• Dubai, UAE (Middle East)
• Accra, Ghana (West Africa)
• Panama City, Panama (Latin America)
• Subang, Malaysia (South East Asia)
The regional presence of UNHRD hubs allows for speedier responses and dramatically cut transport costs. It also enables UNHRD to simultaneously respond to four global sudden on-set emergencies.
However, banks know they have a duty of care to their clients and I'm sure that this should prevent them lending irresponsibly.
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your right, apart from the hypocrisy it makes no practical sense and is against policy
but they have this planned investment of the commercial logistics hub, Lynx to develop air freight hub at Shannon - RT News good news, to be welcomed (the evils of capitalism aside ;P), this humanitarian hub is pure greenwash.
This idea may have originated though from Labour party member Roger Cole, Irish Left Review · Dublin City Council opposes US troops use of Shannon Airport in wars
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doesn't it seem like a rehearsed a little, its was a sop to any labour voters foolish enough to use this as excuse to vote in labour who continue the policy of war profiteering.
Joe Costello brings it up in the dail and says it all himself Disaster Relief: 11 Oct 2011: Dáil debates (KildareStreet.com)
"There is no Atlantic hub so far. None of the areas the Minister of State has mentioned are near the Atlantic."
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finding more about this, heres is presentation a man named Brian Byrne gave on behalf of the organization he heads to Jacksonville, Florida's chamber of commerce subsidiary called Cornerstone of a military airport/seaport town which they are planning to collaborate on this Atlantic Aid hub
http://www.atlanticway.com/default/i.../jacksonville/
http://www.atlanticway.com/default/Brian Byrne's Presentation - Shannon as a hub for Humanitarian Aid.ppt
Possibility of global aid centre for Shannon
wow a impressive list of maybesdevelopment plan would “support the development of innovative initiatives that harness the potential of the airport including, but not exclusive to, a residential flight school, global logistics centre for humanitarian aid, unmanned aerospace systems and a centre for space collaboration and research co-operation.”
everyone wants their project to world leader a global hub, doesn't mean they will be.
hardly a mention from any of these people about the current military activity at the airport, they don't want to mention it lest it hurt their marketing sheen.
being pushed by labour's Joe Costello, Jan O'Sullivan Alan Kelly, Eamon Gilmore earliest mention of I can find is October 2010 http://www.clareherald.com/news/52-l...arian-aid.html
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We ourselves give much in foreign aid. If Irish facilities can be used as a point of distribution for foreign aid would we not be mad to offer our facilities at the standard cost? The two alternatives to the proposal are firstly that we deny US aid a distribution hub (equating war with humanitarian aid). The other is that we host the US aid program for free, and waive airport and storage fees. Hardly possible, especially at this time.
If this plan goes through there is a financial benefit to Shannon, without which it may suffer as a regional hub. It would be insane to bin that bonus on the grounds that some people believe US humanitarian aid is the same as US military action. But an added benefit might also be a ability of Irish Aid to aviail of US Aids better funded distribution network, lowering our own costs (if that is an issue for some) or making our aid stretch further.
I do not see a down side to this, and in particular no need what so ever to make this a political issue. It would be sad indeed if Irish miscreants were to attack Aid plans flying out of, or based in Shannon.
How much of a benefit, and who pays it? Are you so certain that there is a national gain here? Are you so certain that this work will be so profitable as to yield any significant benefit?
Can I stress, I see this discussion as complete separate to what Ireland's contribution to global disaster relief should be. This is just a Shannon Gombeen question of how much they should be allowed to profit from the misery of others.Well, I'm afraid you are too late. This entire proposal is political. Its highly significant how this issue attracts the most interest in the local papers.
Humanitarian hub at Shannon is a flyer, says Jan O
However, banks know they have a duty of care to their clients and I'm sure that this should prevent them lending irresponsibly.
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thacmon where did you get the such a strong idea that this was to be USAID, the presentation suggests it is but you seem pretty sure?
that's some bizarre propaganda of some fictional people, you've created there, I don't see it as the same at all, all im saying is finish one policy before you start another, you can't have paint yourself as humanitarian hub if you continue to refuel belligerent military invasion forces through your country that began long before any UN figleaf was put over them, not to mention the kidnap and torture rings
i dunno schuhart i see the localism as the blandest part of this, unless its false promises that bother you and you question how much is spent on marketing and how much is spent getting actual jobs via atlantic way, western development commission etc etc
do we produce the drugs that would be needed, would storing them here if they came from elsewhere be a good idea
it seems more of a stretch then a flyerWith Shannon, we are trying to see what niche areas might be appropriate. It might not be suitable for stocking larger items like tents which would be more appropriate closer to disaster areas,” she said.“But medicines is one area that has potential. We have a big pharmaceutical industry here in Ireland
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