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    This is what American Torture looks like.

    The following is an extract from the recent Council Of Europe report into the secret CIA rendition prisons in Europe and around the world.


    iii. Confinement, isolation and insufficient provision

    245. Detainees were taken to their cells by strong people who wore black outfits, masks that covered their whole faces, and dark visors over their eyes. Clothes were cut up and torn off; many detainees were then kept naked for several weeks.

    246. Detainees were only a bucket to urinate into, a bowl from which to eat breakfast and dinner (delivered at intervals, in silence) and a blanket.

    247. Detainees went through months of solitary confinement and extreme sensory deprivation in cramped cells, shackled and handcuffed at all times.

    248. Detainees were given old, black blankets that were too small to lie upon at the same time as attempting to cover oneself.

    249. Detainees received unfamiliar food, like canned beef and rice, many only ate in order to give some warmth against cruel cold weather.

    250. Food was raw, tasteless and was often tipped out carelessly on a shallow dish so part of it would waste. Apart from a thin foam mattress to lie on or rest against, many cells had a bare floor and blank walls.

    251. At one point in 2004, eight persons were being kept together in one CIA facility in Europe, but were administered according to a strict regime of isolation. Contact between them through sight or sound was forbidden… and prevented unless it was expressly decided to create limited conditions where they could see or come into contact with one another because it would serve [the CIA’s] intelligence-gathering objectives to allow it.

    252. A common feature for many detainees was the four-month isolation regime. During this period of over 120 days, absolutely no human contact was granted with anyone but masked, silent guards. There’s not meant to be anything to hold onto. No familiarity, no comfort, nobody to talk to, no way out. It’s a long time to be all alone with your thoughts.

    a. Careful physical conditioning of detainee and cell

    253. In the process of being transferred into secret detention, all detainees are physically screened in order to assess their health and conditioning, identify any injuries or scars they may bear, and get a complete picture to compare them against once they are in detention. These screenings, for which the subject is stripped naked, used a body chart, similar to the inventory diagrams provided by rent-a-car companies upon leasing a vehicle, on which specific marks are noted. In every case, the subject is videotaped or at least photographed naked before transfer.

    254. The air in many cells emanated from a ventilation hole in the ceiling, which was often controlled to produce extremes of temperature: sometimes so hot one would gasp for breath,sometimes freezing cold.

    255. Many detainees described air conditioning for deliberate discomfort.

    256. Detainees were exposed at times to over-heating in the cell; at other times drafts of freezing breeze.

    257. Detainees never experienced natural light or natural darkness, although most were blindfolded many times so they could see nothing.

    b. Permanent surveillance

    258. Detainees speak hatefully about the surveillance cameras, positioned so that in every inch of the cell they would be observed.

    259. Detainees were also listened to by interrogators, over hidden microphones in the walls.

    260. Notwithstanding the presence of video cameras inside the cells, masked prison guards regularly looked in and knocked on the door of the cell, demanding detainees to raise their hands to show that they are alive.

    c. Mundane routines become unforgettable memories

    261. Breakfast was delivered in the morning, followed by lunch in the early afternoon. The morning food was typically two or three triangles of cheese with no foil, two slices of tomato, some boiled potatoes, bread and olives. The afternoon food was typically boiled white rice with sliced luncheon meat.

    262. On some special occasions, including certain religious holidays, special foods including cooked meat with sauce, nuts and dates, fresh fruit and vegetables, or pieces of chocolate were delivered to the cells. There was even provision for treats like unwrapped candy bars and dessert cakes.

    263. Special routines developed around the delivery of food. The light bulb, which was always on, would be briefly turned off; the food would be delivered; and then the light bulb would be turned back on again. There was a hatch in the door of the cell for delivery of food but it was completelyunpredictable whether the guards would use the hatch, or open the doors and bring the food in.

    264. Detainees had a bucket for a toilet, which was about a foot deep and ten inches in diameter.

    265. At time the electricity supply went dead. The music stopped and the light went out. For a brief period one could heard different voices shouting, some more distant than others but all incoherent.

    d. Exertion of physical and psychological stress

    266. There was a shackling ring in the wall of the cell, about half a metre up off the floor. Detainees’ hands and feet were clamped in handcuffs and leg irons. Bodies were regularly forced into contorted shapes and chained to this ring for long, painful periods.

    267. Most persons in CIA custody attempted sooner or later to resist or protest their treatment and interrogation. Yet their efforts would largely be in vain. According to one source involved in CIA interrogation: “you know they are starting to crack when they come back at you; when they get really vocal or they try to challenge your authority. So you hold out… you push them over the edge”.

    268. The sound most commonly heard in cells was a constant, low-level hum of white noise from loudspeakers. Other recollections speak of an external humming noise, like aircraft, engines or a generator. The constant noise was punctuated by blasts of loud Western music – rock music, rap music and thumping beats, or distorted verses from the Koran, or irritating noises – thunder, planes taking off, cackling laughter, the screams of women and children.

    269. Detainees were subjected to relentless noise and disturbance were deprived of the chance to sleep.

    270. The torture music was turned on, or at least made much louder, as punishment for perceived infractions like raising one’s voice, calling out, or not waving quickly enough when guards demanded a response from you.

    271. The gradual escalation of applied physical and psychological exertion, combined in some cases with more concentrated pressure periods for the purposes of interrogation, is said to have caused many of those held by the CIA to develop enduring psychiatric and mental problems.

    The report also describes why these details matter, why it is crucial for us, the free, to understand the prisoners and the conditions they are subject to:

    i. Re-humanising the people held in secret detention

    232. The policy of secret detentions and renditions pursued by the current US administration has created a dangerous precedent of dehumanisation. Many of the people caught up in the CIA’s global spider’s web208 are rightly described as “ghost prisoners”209 because they have been made invisible for many years

    233. Meanwhile the US Government’s descriptions of its captives in the “war on terror” can only serve to exacerbate this dehumanising effect. The Administration routinely speaks of “aliens”, “deadly enemies” and “faceless terrorists,” with the clear intention of dehumanising its detainees in the eyes of the American population. The NGO community, for its part, calls them “ghost prisoners”.

    234. By characterising the people held in secret detention as “different” from us – not as humans, but as ghosts, aliens or terrorists – the US Government tries to lead us into the trap of thinking they are not like us, they are not subjects of the law, therefore their human rights do not deserve protection.

    235. President Bush has laid this trap on multiple occasions as a means of diverting attention from the abusive conditions in which certain detainees in US custody are being held.211 Our team heard first-hand how distinctions are drawn in the mind of guards and interrogators: in an interview with one of our CIA sources who has extensive knowledge of detainee treatment, we asked whether a known form of detainee treatment should be considered as abusive. “Here’s my question,” replied our source. “Was the guy a terrorist? ‘Cause if he’s a terrorist then I figure he got what was coming to him. I’ve met a lot of them and one thing I know for sure is that they ain’t human – they ain’t like you and me.”

    236. Yet what has struck me most often as I have examined the cases of scores of people held in secret detention – some of whom I have met – is precisely the opposite: these detainees’ ordeals have affected me profoundly as I have always thought of them as fellow human beings. The worst criminals, even those who deserve the harshest punishment, must be given humane treatment and a fair trial. This, moreover, is what makes us a civilised society.

    237. It is for these reasons that we must combat their being seen as “ghost prisoners” by repeatedly pointing out that persons detained in the course of counter-terrorist operations are and remain human beings whose human rights must be protected and who are entitled to humane treatment as laid down in the ECHR. In this section of my report I have set out expressly to place the emphasis on the human aspects of these people held in secret detention.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/p ... _06_07.pdf
    http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... emID=13050
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    I presume this is posted mainly for the benefit of the Green Party?
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    Why? Are you suggesting that FF and the PDs don't care about human rights and think it is acceptable that we are facilitating such monsterous behaviour through allowing the use of Shannon for CIA rendition flights?
    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    You would prefer they were in hotels?
    That's complete nonsense. I disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia
    Why? Are you suggesting that FF and the PDs don't care about human rights and think it is acceptable that we are facilitating such monsterous behaviour through allowing the use of Shannon for CIA rendition flights?
    As long as American multinationals keep pumping money into Ireland, FF couldn't care less who they torture or gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Bloom
    I presume this is posted mainly for the benefit of the Green Party?
    as if the green party are the only people interested in human rights? cop on to yourself..

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    Quote Originally Posted by morryah
    You would prefer they were in hotels?
    Who do you mean by they?

    232. The policy of secret detentions and renditions pursued by the current US administration has created a dangerous precedent of dehumanisation. Many of the people caught up in the CIA’s global spider’s web208 are rightly described as “ghost prisoners”209 because they have been made invisible for many years

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    Sounds more like the script for Hostel: Part II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morryah
    You would prefer they were in hotels?
    Ah yes, because it's a straight choice between disappearing and torturing Suspected terrorists, and putting them up in 6 star Dubai palaces.
    Actual morality is doing what is right regardless of what you're told. Religious morality is doing what you're told, regardless of if it's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrasia
    Quote Originally Posted by morryah
    You would prefer they were in hotels?
    Ah yes, because it's a straight choice between disappearing and torturing Suspected terrorists, and putting them up in 6 star Dubai palaces.
    you could easily do both.
    That's complete nonsense. I disagree with you.

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