Could Israel go to war with NATO

[Bonsai Experiment]

Not even the Israelis believe the Israelis won.


Polls on the War with Hizbullah

[Conor the Bold]

Not even the Israelis believe the Israelis won.

Polls on the War with Hizbullah

What's that liar? Oh you have to resort to polls. I thought we were dealing in 'facts' and not numbers of people who hold an 'opinion'. Was Darwin incorrect because the majority of people at the time thought he was? He made an assertion and supported it with evidence.

We know what position you hold. You've made an assertion that Israel suffered a 'terrible defeat' repeatedly and I'm asking you to defend this assertion.

That's what happens in a debate and discussion forum. Perhaps it's not for you.


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Edit. Incidentally - you do read the links posted to you?

Who won the war?


Maariv, August 15, 2006
Israel Radio's “Another Matter,” August 16, 2006
Yediot Ahronot, August 16, 2006
Hezbollah
15%
24%
30%
Israel
18%
28%
30%
Neither
66%
36%
36%

They also don't think Hezbollah won... Strange.

I personally think that no side "won or lost". All sides of the conflict had their gains and losses after the conflict.

At the end of the day - Hezbollah has a stronger position in the Government. Lebanon has a renewed interest in maintaining sovereignty over southern Lebanon and Israel hasn't been attack from southern Lebanon for over 5 years, compared to the period from the withdrawal in 2000 from Lebanon to the ceasefire in 2006 and cessation of the 2006 conflict.

time to grow up Bonsai...

[L'Chaim]

Every time I dare read your filth, it gets more obscene. Are you seriously boasting about the IOF deliberately leaving hidden landmines which kill hundreds of innocent children? Surely a clear example of terrorism.

And yet you don't see any problem with apartment blocks, homes and villages full of those same children being used by Hezbollah to store and hide bombs, rockets and other weapons. You only care about 'the children' when Israel has no other option but to clear those areas of everyone because hezbollah hide among those civilian populations and use those 'children' as cover for their attacks on Israel. Funny you don't seem to care about the Israeli children those rockets, bombs and other weapons are used against. Tell the truth........you couldn't care less about 'the children' except when you can try to use them as a propaganda exercise against Israel

[L'Chaim]

What's that liar? Oh you have to resort to polls. I thought we were dealing in 'facts' and not numbers of people who hold an 'opinion'. Was Darwin incorrect because the majority of people at the time thought he was? He made an assertion and supported it with evidence.

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Love it!

[brughahaha]

Funniest News story of the week

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...srael-1.384197

Lieberman , the clown prince of the middle east,(and Moldovian neo fascist) that started the whole disaster by his treatment of the Turkish Ambassador , threatened to support the PKK as retaliation against Turkey (forgetting that the US lists it as a terrorist organisation, D'oh! ) ..... the PKK told him to get stuffed and also demanded an apology from Israel ..... Israel cant even GIVE their support away anymore..... ..... I was tempted to start a new thread in Political humour and put this there so funny did I find it ..........

[Trampas]

...the PKK told him to get stuffed and also demanded an apology from Israel .....

But of course they did. Rather naive of Israel not to understand that the worst Muslim is better than the best Kuffar........as a Muslim poster on here used to say. Of course the Kurds were also on board with the Turks when it came to the Armenian genocide.

[brughahaha]

But of course they did. Rather naive of Israel not to understand that the worst Muslim is better than the best Kuffar........as a Muslim poster on here used to say. Of course the Kurds were also on board with the Turks when it came to the Armenian genocide.

Will if it was so obvious ...How come the Israeli Government didnt know

I thought they had the best intelligence agencies in the world ....

[Bonsai Experiment]

What's that liar? Oh you have to resort to polls. I thought we were dealing in 'facts' and not numbers of people who hold an 'opinion'. Was Darwin incorrect because the majority of people at the time thought he was? He made an assertion and supported it with evidence....

Oh really? What evidence did he supply?
As a matter of fact, apart from the obvious shortcomings in your performance here and your continuous resort to primitive outbursts, there exists no proof that you are related to the monkeys. Was Darwin correct ?

Think about that whilst we all enjoy the spectacle of hundreds of thousands of flag waving, smiling Lebanese celebrating their victory over the Israeli invasion force.

[Bonsai Experiment]

And when Israel was fighting them it had to take into account that it was not at war with lebanon and that restricted how they approached the conflict. All it could do was to target Hezbollah stronghold areas and push them North.

Conflicts Forum » How Hezbollah defeated Israel

Qana was the result of Olmert’s agreement to “stretch the target envelope”. One US military expert who monitored the conflict closely had this to say of the Qana bombing: “This isn’t really that complicated. After the failure of the initial campaign, IAF planning officers went back through their target folders to see if they had missed anything. When they decided they hadn’t, someone probably stood up and went into the other room and returned with a set of new envelopes of targets in densely populated areas and said, ‘Hey, what about these target envelopes?’ And so they did it.” That is, the bombing of targets “close in” to southern Lebanon population areas was the result of Israel’s failure in the war - not its success.

[Grumpy Jack]

That video reminds me of this 'celebration' up the road in 1994

History shows a very different outcome.

But you believe your silly little propaganda, Bonsai - the facts on the ground in Southern Lebanon tell a very different story.