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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    Not a whitter out of Noddy and the rest of the comrades about these things of course. All of them, deliberate actions. All of them, since Feb this year. Not to mention of course his personal ownership of the country for decades. You bitter, narrowminded gobsh1tes sicken my ass.

    17 Crimes committed by Gaddafi against Libyan people | Off the Strip for free thinkers and adventurers

    1- Shooting at unarmed protestors

    2- Burning houses of people in Tripoli who called Al Jazeera

    3- Looting houses of people suspected to have protested against Gaddafi

    4- Torturing kidnapped people to death

    5- Shutting off water, electricity and communication to cities

    6- Indiscriminate shelling of cities with BM21 grad rockets & tanks

    7- Attacking ambulances & hospitals and killing injured

    8- Using ambulances to move forces & attack on protestors

    9- Kill doctors for treating injured people after hospitals were closed for people

    10- Using State TV to encourage violence.

    11- Attacking & destroying mosques

    12- Using sleeper cells in Benghazi to randomly shoot at civilians to create chaos

    13- Forcing migrant workers to join mercenary training camps

    14- Stealing all money, phones & other stuff of refuges

    15- Attacking livestock near attacked cities

    16- Destroying graves of dead protestors, taking away bodies to unknown place

    17- Bringing in people to dance with Gaddafi pictures in massacred cities.
    Reputable sources please, not some private right wing blog filled with neo-con tripe that has long been discredited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    Reputable sources please, not some private right wing blog filled with neo-con tripe that has long been discredited.
    Ye I opened the link and its just the same list as he posted. Sure I could write a list like that and post it.

    Here goes

    1. Benghazi rebels hang black men from lampposts.
    2. Benghazi rebel are all member of Bin laden fifth column
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    nth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    Not a whitter out of Noddy and the rest of the comrades about these things of course. All of them, deliberate actions. All of them, since Feb this year. Not to mention of course his personal ownership of the country for decades. You bitter, narrowminded gobsh1tes sicken my ass.

    17 Crimes committed by Gaddafi against Libyan people | Off the Strip for free thinkers and adventurers

    1- Shooting at unarmed protestors

    2- Burning houses of people in Tripoli who called Al Jazeera

    3- Looting houses of people suspected to have protested against Gaddafi

    4- Torturing kidnapped people to death

    5- Shutting off water, electricity and communication to cities

    6- Indiscriminate shelling of cities with BM21 grad rockets & tanks

    7- Attacking ambulances & hospitals and killing injured

    8- Using ambulances to move forces & attack on protestors

    9- Kill doctors for treating injured people after hospitals were closed for people

    10- Using State TV to encourage violence.

    11- Attacking & destroying mosques

    12- Using sleeper cells in Benghazi to randomly shoot at civilians to create chaos

    13- Forcing migrant workers to join mercenary training camps

    14- Stealing all money, phones & other stuff of refuges

    15- Attacking livestock near attacked cities

    16- Destroying graves of dead protestors, taking away bodies to unknown place

    17- Bringing in people to dance with Gaddafi pictures in massacred cities.

    Who has the mandate over Africa? Nato? The Arab League? NO. The AFRICAN UNION. Yet you neo-imperialists with your oil-filled eyes ignore that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyke2010 View Post
    Who has the mandate over Africa? Nato? The Arab League? NO. The AFRICAN UNION. Yet you neo-imperialists with your oil-filled eyes ignore that.
    Shut up tyke. Members of the Arab league - Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Somalia to name a few. Libya is currently suspended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor the Bold View Post
    Shut up tyke. Members of the Arab league - Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Somalia to name a few. Libya is currently suspended.

    Conor, you do speak complete rubbish. The Arab League has no mandate over any African nation, thus Libya, in the same way that it would have no mandate over a European Union Arab country were one to exist; that mandate would rest with the EU. Likewise, the AU is the institution that has the right to oversee African affairs. Not the Arab League, not the USA, and certainly not NATO or its neo-imperialistic members. The AU has an army to deal with crises but you probably overlooked that bit, so right from the outset, this war was about Western interests and not democratic revolution in Libya.

    Check your facts and when you're done, hold your hands up and admit you were an idiot who had not done his homework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    Sickening. If it was the other way around the outrage and media attention would be immense (and rightly so), but when the wind is in this direction even the so called "liberal" publications like the New York Times refer it to as "just" a mistake.

    Here's a good insight into the real reason behind the attacks.

    Interesting.

    And from wikileaks, seems Gaddafi was putting the squeeze on foreign oil companies:

    WikiLeaks: Libya Pressed Oil Firms To Reimburse Terror Costs

    Libya's ruling family tried to coerce billions of dollars from Libyan and foreign oil companies, and its leader Muammar Gaddafi exhorted the United States to sow division in Saudi Arabia, leaked American diplomatic cables reveal.

    One cable seen by Reuters, sent from the U.S. embassy in Tripoli, shows Gaddafi's government exerting heavy pressure on U.S. and other oil companies to reimburse Tripoli the $1.5 billion Libya had paid in 2008 into a fund to settle terrorism claims from the 1980s.
    Then you have various leaks of US State Department cables from recent years documenting ''increased evidence of Libyan resource nationalism''.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republican-Socialist View Post
    Interesting.

    And from wikileaks, seems Gaddafi was putting the squeeze on foreign oil companies:

    WikiLeaks: Libya Pressed Oil Firms To Reimburse Terror Costs



    Then you have various leaks of US State Department cables from recent years documenting ''increased evidence of Libyan resource nationalism''.


    Reminds me of Saddam's decision to trade oil in Euros (as a partial means of overcoming American-led sanctions). He was doing that in 2000. By 2003 (after his overthrow), Iraq was back to trading in dollars. But we were told we could be attacked by him within 45 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyke2010 View Post
    Conor, you do speak complete rubbish. The Arab League has no mandate over any African nation, thus Libya, in the same way that it would have no mandate over a European Union Arab country were one to exist; that mandate would rest with the EU. Likewise, the AU is the institution that has the right to oversee African affairs. Not the Arab League, not the USA, and certainly not NATO or its neo-imperialistic members. The AU has an army to deal with crises but you probably overlooked that bit, so right from the outset, this war was about Western interests and not democratic revolution in Libya.

    Check your facts and when you're done, hold your hands up and admit you were an idiot who had not done his homework.
    Shut up Tyke.

    Firstly it's quite obvious why the Arab League is interested in Libya because Libya and North Africa - are in the Arab league.

    Secondly explain what gives the AU the right to "oversee African Affairs"? What 'right' does the AU have to interfere with Libya? What Manadate?

    Thirdly- What African Union Army? Feel free to expand more on this. What's it current manpower levels? Where is the command structure? No the African Union does not have an Army - nor does the UN, nor does NATO, nor does the EU. So you are either a liar or an idiot. What's it to be?

    In summation - shut up tyke. You're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    Not a whitter out of Noddy and the rest of the comrades about these things of course. All of them, deliberate actions. All of them, since Feb this year. Not to mention of course his personal ownership of the country for decades. You bitter, narrowminded gobsh1tes sicken my ass.

    17 Crimes committed by Gaddafi against Libyan people | Off the Strip for free thinkers and adventurers

    1- Shooting at unarmed protestors

    2- Burning houses of people in Tripoli who called Al Jazeera

    3- Looting houses of people suspected to have protested against Gaddafi

    4- Torturing kidnapped people to death

    5- Shutting off water, electricity and communication to cities

    6- Indiscriminate shelling of cities with BM21 grad rockets & tanks

    7- Attacking ambulances & hospitals and killing injured

    8- Using ambulances to move forces & attack on protestors

    9- Kill doctors for treating injured people after hospitals were closed for people

    10- Using State TV to encourage violence.

    11- Attacking & destroying mosques

    12- Using sleeper cells in Benghazi to randomly shoot at civilians to create chaos

    13- Forcing migrant workers to join mercenary training camps

    14- Stealing all money, phones & other stuff of refuges

    15- Attacking livestock near attacked cities

    16- Destroying graves of dead protestors, taking away bodies to unknown place

    17- Bringing in people to dance with Gaddafi pictures in massacred cities.
    Not sure what any of the above has to do with the point I was making. You're posting random information that has nothing to do with the OP.

    Like a lot of people on here you appear to have let your own personal anti-left sentiment get in the way of understanding what was been said. No one was disputing that Gadaffi is a disgusting tyrant, but NATO are not bombing Libya because of any of the above, but because of the Western worlds own economic interests in the region.

    Also they haven't damaged Gadaffi's position yet at all. They've strengthened it. He has more support now than before they started bombing the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conor the Bold View Post
    Shut up Tyke.

    Firstly it's quite obvious why the Arab League is interested in Libya because Libya and North Africa - are in the Arab league.

    Secondly explain what gives the AU the right to "oversee African Affairs"? What 'right' does the AU have to interfere with Libya? What Manadate?

    Thirdly- What African Union Army? Feel free to expand more on this. What's it current manpower levels? Where is the command structure? No the African Union does not have an Army - nor does the UN, nor does NATO, nor does the EU. So you are either a liar or an idiot. What's it to be?

    In summation - shut up tyke. You're an idiot.

    An idiot? Says the GCHQ guinea pig gone wrong. Do your homework properly, because what you write is complete rubbish yet again.

    Please explain how the Arab League had more of a right over Libya than the African Union. Please do. Take your time. Google is in the corner of your internet browser.
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