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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombo View Post
    No, he lost a referendum to allow himself unlimited terms in office in 2007 and than decided to give the people a second chance to get the correct answer in 2009.


    Here is some of his sporting and democratic rhetoric follow the 2007 loss:




    Chavez is lambasted because he is and most likely always was a simple gangster in the style of communists Guevera, Castro, Stalin, Mugabe etc.
    How come it is still legal to go on television and call for the president to be murdered. You couldn't do that here or anywhere else in the free west. The left in central and south america have always ceded power to the electorate. The right, when beaten, have launched coups and assasinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffc View Post
    How come it is still legal to go on television and call for the president to be murdered. You couldn't do that here or anywhere else in the free west. The left in central and south america have always ceded power to the electorate. The right, when beaten, have launched coups and assasinations.
    Ceded power to the electorate???? Chavez has been on one centralising power and wealth grab since he came to power.

    Also don't forget his own coup attempt


    You deserve to live in Venzuela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewRepublic View Post
    What is it the second most likely country behind Greece to default? Ireland being 4th. We both have been destroyed by socialism (remember Bertie?).
    Oh yeh, Anglo Irish Bank was being run as a workers cooperative, the profits being distributed to health and education. The banks ruined this country, the private banks, the capitalist banks, the low regulation right wing nutbags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombo View Post
    Ceded power to the electorate???? Chavez has been on one centralising power and wealth grab since he came to power.

    Also don't forget his own coup attempt


    You deserve to live in Venzuela.
    that's right, a wealth grab from the rich to the poor, resulting in massive improvements in mortality rates and literacy rates. So successful are the education programmes that the mass of people can see straight through the lies and propaganda spouted by right wing media groups in the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffc View Post
    Oh yeh, Anglo Irish Bank was being run as a workers cooperative, the profits being distributed to health and education. The banks ruined this country, the private banks, the capitalist banks, the low regulation right wing nutbags.
    You could argue that had we not be throwing as much money around the place we would not be in half as big a hole as we are now. The current deficit would certainly have been lower and no doubt we would not be getting a bailout right now. Hell you could argue had we not be spending as much we could have let the banks go to the wall as we would not have to go cap in hand to the EU/IMF to keep the nurses, gaurds and teachers paid.

    Venezuela goes to show the socialists are just as adept at bankrupting countries. Whats Chavez's excuse I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewRepublic View Post
    What is it the second most likely country behind Greece to default? Ireland being 4th. We both have been destroyed by socialism (remember Bertie?).
    Funniest post .......... Ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffc View Post
    Oh yeh, Anglo Irish Bank was being run as a workers cooperative, the profits being distributed to health and education. The banks ruined this country, the private banks, the capitalist banks, the low regulation right wing nutbags.
    Anglo Irish was always insolvent, its government intervention and ban on the free banking model that allows these kips to flourish.

    If there was a free market Anglo wouldn't last 5 minutes and you would have hundreds of community styled banks were savers and investors could meet and agree their own interest rates. A bit like Betfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    socialism ALWAYS fails. I feel sorry for the people of Venezuela (I've met a few) and Cubans and North Koreans and hope one day they are free.
    Oh right and rampant capitalism has served us well? The only reason our lights are still on is because we were bailed out after our politicians gave the banks our tax money.
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    I remember this article from The Economist Magazine (dated February 2011). It describes in detail how Chavez destroyed his country and how Venezuela may well be the first oil rich nation to declare bankruptcy - possibly in 2012. Worth a read.

    Venezuela's economy: Oil leak | The Economist
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    of course it's all the fault of the "great satan" or some ************************e like that...
    Yeah, clearly from the article you linked to some ************************e like increased demand and diminished capacity. Do you roll your eyes about things in real life?

    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    Venezuela Plans to Ration Power for Second Year, Minister Says - Bloomberg

    Power shortages and electricity rationing for the second year in a row in a country awash with oil.

    Venezuela will ration power again this year, planning steps similar to those taken in 2010 amid an energy crisis, Electricity Minister Ali Rodriguez said.

    “We’re going to reapply the measures we applied in Caracas last year nationwide, which punishes the wasting of electricity and encourages energy savings,” Rodriguez said in an interview on state television today.

    Any rationing measures require President Hugo Chavez’s approval, Rodriguez said.

    Venezuela has struggled to boost energy-generating capacity to keep pace with an estimated 6 percent increase in demand this year. The consumption jump, if it persists, would require an additional 2,000 megawatts of new capacity a year, which is “unsustainable,” Rodriguez said.

    In addition to measures to slow energy use in Caracas, Chavez also implemented national electricity rations last year as a drought almost shut the power grid. Venezuela, which relies on hydroelectric plants for more than two-thirds of its power, is again facing outages even as recent rains cause mudslides and damage homes and infrastructure.

    The government expects electricity use to climb after the economy grew 4.5 percent in the first quarter, Rodriguez said.
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