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    paddycomeback paddycomeback is offline

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    Anybody try and register or buy the Petro crypto-currency? The link to the website seems to being blocked by Google.
    www.regpetro.mppeuct.gob.ve
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    Yes, tried to buy 30k worth, same experience mate.
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    Quite like Comrade Sanders really but the account of the Soviet system by one of its advisers here is instructive and amusing.
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    Some people here seem to be enjoying the misery of millions of people. Obviously a population is responsible for their leaders but when I hear my friends Venezuelan wife talk about her relatives stuck there, it is very sad. The violence is shocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    Some people here seem to be enjoying the misery of millions of people. Obviously a population is responsible for their leaders but when I hear my friends Venezuelan wife talk about her relatives stuck there, it is very sad. The violence is shocking.
    Well, indeed the Socialist leadership are enjoying the fruits of socialist rule.

    Is Maduro looking in a bin for toilet roll ?

    Is he having a bad case of the Trots ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    Some people here seem to be enjoying the misery of millions of people. Obviously a population is responsible for their leaders but when I hear my friends Venezuelan wife talk about her relatives stuck there, it is very sad. The violence is shocking.
    No, we are trying to hammer home to you f˙cking Leftist fascist f˙ckwits, what misery and despotism you bring every time you are allowed out of your box.
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    Where is Ruth no-Cop-whinger on this subject ?

    She advocated state ownership and management of the Dell plant.

    She advocated taking over the Irish operations of Starbucks so that the coffee shops could be run along lines that agreed with her whims.

    Venezuela is run along the lines of how ruth no-Cop-whinger advocates a country to be run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    Where is Ruth no-Cop-whinger on this subject ?

    She advocated state ownership and management of the Dell plant.

    She advocated taking over the Irish operations of Starbucks so that the coffee shops could be run along lines that agreed with her whims.

    Venezuela is run along the lines of how ruth no-Cop-whinger advocates a country to be run.
    Bull. The vast majority of business in Venezuela is privately run . There are shortages in some areas, the areas where the govt has huge support. There are other areas where the supermarkets are full if luxury goods, where the golf clubs are packed, where the elite schools are still charging top dollar. These areas are the opposition strongholds. Now show me a dictatorship or repressive regime anywhere in the world where this strange dichotomy exists.
    The opposition need to put together a plan that deals with third world poverty ( you guys seem to think the rest of South America has no poverty, no shortages) and offers hope to the masses. But they don't, because what they want is their privilege maintained and, indeed, extended. What they really want is for the huge number of people lifted out of abject poverty in Venezuela to go back to illiteracy, shanty towns and death from cholera or typhoid.
    Well, tough, Chavism may have run it's course, but until the opposition offers a socially inclusive, recognizably redistributive programme, they are going nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffc View Post
    Bull. The vast majority of business in Venezuela is privately run . There are shortages in some areas, the areas where the govt has huge support. There are other areas where the supermarkets are full if luxury goods, where the golf clubs are packed, where the elite schools are still charging top dollar. These areas are the opposition strongholds. .
    And you know this because you've been spending time in Venezuela?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffc View Post
    Bull. The vast majority of business in Venezuela is privately run . There are shortages in some areas, the areas where the govt has huge support. There are other areas where the supermarkets are full if luxury goods, where the golf clubs are packed, where the elite schools are still charging top dollar. These areas are the opposition strongholds. Now show me a dictatorship or repressive regime anywhere in the world where this strange dichotomy exists.
    The opposition need to put together a plan that deals with third world poverty ( you guys seem to think the rest of South America has no poverty, no shortages) and offers hope to the masses. But they don't, because what they want is their privilege maintained and, indeed, extended. What they really want is for the huge number of people lifted out of abject poverty in Venezuela to go back to illiteracy, shanty towns and death from cholera or typhoid.
    Well, tough, Chavism may have run it's course, but until the opposition offers a socially inclusive, recognizably redistributive programme, they are going nowhere.
    Only some areas ?

    It is the opposition's fault ?

    Unbelievable. Why not tell us that what is going on in Venezuela is not "real" socialism ? That is the normal, and predictable response when socialism has phucked up a country.


    And not just any country - the country with the largest hydrocarbon reserves in the Americas. They are literally sitting on wealth, and mired in poverty. They are surrounded by forests and they have no toilet roll. Looking at oil, and they have no fuel.
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