Secret Zimbabwe talks

[Paddylekker]

And this is why a white woman who is leader of the main opposition party and speaks English, Afrikaans and Xhosa fluently controls SA's second biggest city and the city in which the democratic parliament is based?

This would be the party that the ANC calls "Too White"?
link here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6631785.stm

I fail to see how your point makes ANC any more democratic or pluralist. They would use a race based attack on the oppsoition seem to worryingly suggest the opposite.

The DA is too white and too middle class though, it's a fair criticism. That's part of the DA's problem.

Zille is an exceptional politician and she knows this too.

[setanta]

And this is why a white woman who is leader of the main opposition party and speaks English, Afrikaans and Xhosa fluently controls SA's second biggest city and the city in which the democratic parliament is based?

This would be the party that the ANC calls "Too White"?
link here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6631785.stm

I fail to see how your point makes ANC any more democratic or pluralist. They would use a race based attack on the oppsoition seem to worryingly suggest the opposite.

Helen Zille, while denying the ANC charge that the Democratic Party is too white, does recognise that the biggest challenge facing her party is how to attract more black support.

Your comment, Thac0man, fails to recognise the context for the comments in the first place. No surprise there, given your earlier bizzare categorisation of me as a likely ZANU-PF Press Officer. You're not very good with context are you, Thac0man?

[setanta]

No, but your blanket calling of anyone who disagrees with you as being a bigot, seem to be rather ZANU.

Oh, I see. That's called 'guilt by association', Thac0man. One word I use could be employed by a member of ZANU-PF, therefore, I must be a ZANU-PF supporter who is against democracy, denies human rights and impoverishes his country.

QED - simple logic, for the simple-minded, hey Thac0man?

[setanta]

I'm not black, as it happens. I just thought it was interesting that you automatically assumed I was white. This speaks to something that needs to be addressed in Ireland - the passive assumption that all Irish people are white. My partner is not white yet she is as Irish as I am and she moved to SA with me.

Well, mea culpa. We do indeed make 'passive assumptions' about Irish identity. But it was a fair assumption as it turned out, my friend!

Anyway, under South African government legislation I don't actually have a 'race'. I am considered 'foreign' and I am classified exactly the same way as a 'black' Irishman or, indeed, a 'black' Zimbabwean would be.

The racial classifications still apply for employment equity legislation but they only apply to South Africans. Us foreigners go to the bottom of the pile, even behind South African whites.

And so you should, coming over here, there ... errr, wherever, taking all the jobs, turning up at immigration claiming assylum and wanting a house and a cheque to go buy a nice, new car with ....

[trickpa]

yeah setanta why assume he is white? Bigot man....

Glad to see your English is improving, trickpa. You made one whole sentence there ... and a fractal as well. Do you see what you can achieve if you only concentrate?

again you point out that I am from a different country - perhaps you liked South Africa pre-Mandela?

[Paddylekker]

Well, mea culpa. We do indeed make 'passive assumptions' about Irish identity. But it was a fair assumption as it turned out, my friend!

Yes, but you were rather lucky. If my partner was posting here she'd now be hunting you down for indirectly implying that she's not really 'Irish'.

She used to get a lot of that from taxi drivers in Dublin.

'So where are you from love?'
'Eh, Meath.'
'But where are you REALLY from?'

[jady88]

Interracial relations are disgusting

[Simon.D]

Interracial relations are disgusting

I find people who make comments like that, most disgusting..

[Paddylekker]

Interracial relations are disgusting

Your sense of self disgust must be overwhelming then given that it is statistically impossible for you not to have the genes of several other 'races' in your system.

[MichaelR]

Interracial relations are disgusting

Hmm, you're no longer a PD? The PDs *started* by advocacy of non-intervention into people's sexual lives.