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    IvoShandor IvoShandor is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth.ie View Post
    We were told to support the overthrow of Hussein in Iraq, using the same divisive argument, only in reverse ( that in Iraq the Sunni minority were dictating over the Shia majority).
    Saudi Arabia ironically were behind the violence in both these countries.
    One, allegedly to defend Shias in Iraq, and now to defend Sunnis in Syria.
    Nothing whatsoever with the Baath party being secular, and protecting minority and womens rights in the Constitution.
    And in the former case,that was substantially correct. Saddam Hussein ruled on behalf of a Sunni/Arab faction and Shias and Kurds got the back of his hand. Saudi Arabia financed Saddam throughout the war with Iran and only turned against him whan he became a threat. The Saudis were'nt interested in the secular character of Iraq as much as its Sunni character. I fail to see why tyrannies should be indulged because of who they persecute. Stalin's USSR was impeccably secular and reasonably feminist....so it was a grand place, Yes?
    Do you think that the murder of Shias in Najaf by Sunni fundamentalists for religious reasons is somehow more heinous than say,the murder of Kurds in Halabja by Saddam for political reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth.ie View Post
    It's a CIA coup. We've already learnt that Obama signed a secret memo giving permission to the CIA to aid the Coup leaders earlier this year.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'%C3%A9tat
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    Assad's pro-Syrian MP'S and Hezbollah up to no good in Lebanon

    THE DAILY STAR :: News :: Politics :: Samaha says of bomb plots,

    BEIRUT: Police surveillance of recently detained former Cabinet Minister Michel Samaha, including incriminating video footage, was key to unveiling the pro-Assad figure’s alleged involvement in a plot to carry out attacks in Lebanon, security sources said Friday.

    “This is what Bashar wants,” security sources quoted Samaha as saying of Syrian President Bashar Assad, in a video shot by a Lebanese undercover agent for the Internal Security Forces Information Branch.

    He was referring to bomb attacks meant to be carried out in north Lebanon.


    They also said that, in the video, Samaha can be seen and heard saying that Syrian Maj. Gen. Ali Mamlouk had handed him the bombs in addition to cash to be distributed to would-be perpetrators of the attacks in Lebanon.

    Samaha was detained Thursday during a raid on his house in the Metn area of Khanshara-Juwar.

    When interrogators screened the video in his presence, Samaha promptly admitted to being the man on film, the sources said.

    The man who shot the video, a member of the Kfouri family, was flown out of the country just before Samaha’s arrest over fears for his safety, the sources added.

    Interior Minister Marwan Charbel said in comments to several media outlets Friday that Samaha admitted to his involvement in a “specific security case, but the issue remains undisclosed.”

    Justice Minister Shakib Qortbawi agreed that the probe is top secret and that "no one knows what is inside."

    Nevertheless, he warned Friday that authorities will open an investigation to find out who was behind the "leaks."

    Security sources Thursday told The Daily Star that Samaha admitted he was involved in the plot to carry out bomb attacks and that he had personally transferred a number of explosives from Syria to Lebanon.

    The sources added that “highly effective” bombs ready to explode by remote control had earlier been found in various areas of Lebanon.


    The same sources told The Daily Star Friday that after police collected evidence for the case and just before the bombs were set to explode, Acting State Prosecutor Samir Hammoud issued the order to detain Samaha.

    The ISF Information Branch seized $170,000 from Samaha’s residence, added the sources.

    They said security was beefed up around Hammoud's house in Moseitbeh, Beirut, following Samaha's arrest, as was his official escort.

    Further information about the would-be attacks indicated that the planting and the timing of the bombs were designed to coincide with a visit to the northern region of Akkar by Maronite Patriarch Beshara Rai.

    When asked to comment by The Daily Star, Rai declined, but Bkirki issued a statement Friday saying that the patriarch's visit to Tripoli and Akkar would last from Aug. 13 until Aug. 16.

    Hammoud briefed Prime Minister Najib Mikati Friday on the outcome of the preliminary investigation of Samaha.

    Mikati urged Hammoud to carry on with the probe “to uncover the truth behind this case and to achieve justice.”

    Also Friday, Future Movement MP Ghazi Youssef hit back at head of the Hezbollah parliamenatary bloc Mohammad Raad, who accused members of the judiciary Thursday of collaborating with “suspicious” security forces against Samaha.

    In Hezbollah’s first response to Samaha’s arrest, Raad said Thursday: “We have long experienced such security fabrications; some judges are connected to suspicious security services.”

    Youssef told a local radio station Friday: “The facts of the investigation will reveal that Samaha’s arrest is not based on security fabrications.”

    He also asked rhetorically why Hezbollah had not accused the ISF's Information Branch of fabricating evidence "when it arrested many Israeli spies, including those who belong to Hezbollah?”


    Meanwhile, reactions were divided over the Samaha affair.

    Controversial Sidon preacher Ahmad Assir said, “The ISF has offered us a precious gift in the last two days, one that makes us hold our heads high.”

    Catholic religious figures expressed disapproval of the way Samaha, a fellow Catholic, was taken into custody.

    Catholic Patriarch Gregorios III Lahham denounced the “abusive way in which Samaha was arrested and the lack of respect for the sanctity of the home and the dignity of the family.”

    In a telephone call to President Michel Sleiman at his summer residence in Beiteddine, Lahham also said the way Samaha was arrested “tarnishes the reputation of the security institution, which acted in an uncivilized manner."

    Zahle’s Catholic bishop Issam Darwish also condemned the manner in which police apprehended Samaha.

    “I’m not against any security measures in accordance with the norms of the Lebanese state, but I'm against the way in which [Samaha] was detained, regardless of the outcome of the ongoing probe,” Darwish said in a statement.

    Others were stronger in their condemnation of the security forces' behavior.

    Brig. Gen. Mustafa Hamdan, a pro-Assad general detained by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon and later released, described Samaha’s detention as a “kidnapping operation.”

    “The kidnapping of the 11 Lebanese in Syria was carried out by Abu Ibrahim,” he said. “Those in Lebanon are carried out by Abu Mazen [Information Branch chief Brig. Gen. Wissam al-Hasan].”

    Hamdan's comments came following a meeting with head of the Free Patriotic Movement Michel Aoun at the latter's residence in Rabieh, north of Beirut.
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    [QUOTE=Andy4571;5655974]Assad's pro-Syrian MP'S and Hezbollah up to no good in Lebanon



    Yeah I saw all that in the Lebanese papers 2 days ago, it is nowhere else though except for the daily star... Still nothing in the French newspapers either even after 2 days (and France is close to Lebanon....).
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    The ongoing conflict in Syria is becoming increasingly sectarian amid reports that rebel fighters have attacked a housing compound for employees of a power company, killing 16 civilians, mostly Alawites and Christians.

    The massacre took place in Jandar village near the western city of Homs on Tuesday, Syria’s state news agency SANA reports.

    "Armed men stormed the Jandar residential compound, firing indiscriminately and killing 16 Syrians, among them six Christians, six Alawites – including the compound director – and four Sunnis," said the director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a London-based NGO.
    Sectarian slaying: Syrian rebels attack Alawites, Christians - reports — RT
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    The massacre took place in Jandar village near the western city of Homs on Tuesday, Syria’s state news agency SANA reports.
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    "Armed men stormed the Jandar residential compound, firing indiscriminately and killing 16 Syrians, among them six Christians, six Alawites – including the compound director – and four Sunnis," said the director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a London-based NGO.
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    Public sector workers executed in Syria by Islamist rebels and thrown off a rooftop.

    Warning: This video contains graphic scenes


    A horrific amateur video appeared on YouTube, apparently showing an atrocity against public service workers in Syria. The footage displays a crowd of people callously throwing the bodies of slain postal workers from a post office rooftop.

    The video, the source of which could not be independently verified, shows several dozen people having surrounded the staircase of the building, some of them chanting "Allahu Akbar!" They watch corpses being thrown out and rolled down the steps.

    Also, several people have got to the roof and are throwing down the apparently dead bodies of post servants.

    As they hit the ground, the crowd rushes in to catch the appalling images on their mobile phones.

    The video caused online outrage and heated debates on Twitter as to who the people committing the atrocity might be. The majority allege they are Free Syrian Army supporters who intentionally target civil servants backing the regime.

    RT's correspondent on the ground Oksana Boyko reports that around one-and-a-half million of the country's civil employees have now become targets. Doctors, teachers and municipal workers risk kidnapping or assassination for simply doing their jobs.
    Absolutely shocking stuff. The KLA (whose ex members have been training personnel of the FSA) employed similar tactics in Kosovo between 1996-98 when they targeted Yugoslav public servants. e.g. postal workers, police, civil servants, forestry workers, school teachers and employees of the Yugoslav State electric company (PTT).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramon Mercadar View Post
    "Armed men stormed the Jandar residential compound, firing indiscriminately and killing 16 Syrians, among them six Christians, six Alawites – including the compound director – and four Sunnis," said the director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a London-based NGO.
    I guess you consider the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights as a good source of reporting then?. Ok, for July.

    Syrian death toll tops 19,000, say activists | World news | guardian.co.uk

    An activist group claims that more than 2,750 people have been killed in Syria so far this month, bringing the death toll since the conflict began to more than 19,000.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said if the current rate of killing continued until the end of July, it would be the deadliest month since the Syrian uprising erupted in March 2011.

    The Observatory's chief, Rami Abdul-Rahman, said on Sunday that 2,752 people, including 1,933 civilians, 738 government troops and 81 rebels, were killed in the first 21 days of July.

    The average daily death toll in June was 94, while this month it has increased to an average of 131 a day.
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    Syrian Catholic nun, Mother Agnes Mariam who is superior of St. James monastery in Syria was in Ireland at the Bishops' Conference in Maynooth gave an interview for today's IT.

    Media coverage of Syrian violence partial and untrue, says nun - The Irish Times - Mon, Aug 13, 2012

    A NUN who has been superior at a Syrian monastery for the past 18 years has warned that media coverage of ongoing violence in that country has been “partial and untrue”. It is “a fake”, Mother Agnes Mariam said, which “hides atrocities committed in the name of liberty and democracy”.

    Superior of the Melkite Greek Catholic monastery of St James the Mutilated in Qara, in Syria’s diocese of Homs, which is in full communion with Rome, she left Ireland yesterday after a three-day visit during which she met representatives of the Irish Catholic Bishops’ Conference in Maynooth.
    She told The Irish Times she was in Ireland “not to advocate for the (Assad) regime but for the facts”. Most news reports from Syria were “forged, with only one side emphasised”, she said. This also applied to the UN, whose reports were “one-sided and not worthy of that organisation”.
    UN observers in Syria had been “moderate with the rebels and covered for them in taking back positions after the withdrawal of heavy equipment, as seen so tragically in Homs”, she said.
    When it was put to her this suggested the whole world was out of step except for Syria, Russia and China, she protested: “No, no, there are 20 countries, including some in Latin America” of the same view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    Syrian Catholic nun, Mother Agnes Mariam who is superior of St. James monastery in Syria was in Ireland at the Bishops' Conference in Maynooth gave an interview for today's IT.

    Media coverage of Syrian violence partial and untrue, says nun - The Irish Times - Mon, Aug 13, 2012
    When it was put to her this suggested the whole world was out of step except for Syria, Russia and China, she protested: “No, no, there are 20 countries, including some in Latin America” of the same view.
    Mother Agnes Mariam is Lebanese also, and not Syrian!!. She is in good company though , although she cant count!!

    BBC News - Russia says UN vote undermines peace efforts in Syria

    resolution which passed by 133 votes to 12 with 31 abstentions.

    Russia voted "no" on Friday along with China, Syria, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Belarus, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Burma, Zimbabwe and Venezuela.
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