Harry Windsor

[The Earl of Desmond]

How would the enemy know where he is - I mean how would they be able to pick him out of all the other soilders there? Unless they have access to his records to where exactly he is based and I'm sure no one in his company will be telling anyone as they don't want to be shot at too.

So if he was really genuine about it he would go and take his chances like everyone else and if he gets shot then he dies an honourable death - sad for his family but no one else - there should be no special effort to keep him safe - he is either on the front line or he isn't and it is outrageous any special action should be taken to keep him safer than any other soildier.

[JCSkinner]

[quote=The Analyser]

Surely his name is actually Harry Saxe-Coburg Gotha?

Nope. That was both the Royal House name and the personal family name until 1917 when both were changed to Windsor. They were separated as a result of an Order-in-Council in 1961, so that the Royal House name is Windsor but the children of Queen Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinburgh are called Windsor-Mountbatten. (The Order-in-Council was intended just to cover the non-titled descendants of the Queen and Duke, but the children immediately decided to adopt the name to honour their father, as it included the names of both parents.)

Exactly. Their real name is Saxe-Coburg Gotha, one they like to hide these days due to two world wars with their mother country.

Obviously accuracy isn't your strong point. (So no change there then.) If you argue that the family could not change their name, then as Elizabeth Windsor married Philip Mountbatten, then following the normal paternal surname rule, Harry would be Harry Mountbatten. Either which way, it is not Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. [/quote:1xk8tref]

The 'normal paternal surname rule' does not apply to royal lineages. They assume the surname of the line.
Hence they are Saxe-Coburg Gotha.
Mind you, one understands exactly why they felt the need to change their name during World War One.
Wouldn't do to let the plebs know that the Royal family they were fighting for were more German than the people in the opposite trenches!

[badinage]

And now, what was the question to begin with??? Do we beleive that harry winsor is going to serve in a war zone? No Way, its a PR stunt.

I think he will. Having said that, after last week's destruction of a Scimitar tank by an IED, killing two of its three crew, I think they'll probably order him not to go out on patrols with his troop/platoon. They'll probably leave him in command of his troop though (as opposed to appointing a replacement lieutenant, and giving Harry a specific base-only job).

Snipers belonging to Shia militia groups have, they claim, been ordered to target the 22-year-old while Sunni insurgents say they plan to hold the prince hostage to demand the release of prisoners and immediate withdrawal of British troops

Like I've said before, every ginger-haired Scimitar crewman in his early 20s must be sh*tting himself

[FakeViking]

Like I've said before, every ginger-haired Scimitar crewman in his early 20s must be sh*tting himself

It's a volunteer army, they only have themselves (and Blair) to blame!

[badinage]

Mind you, one understands exactly why they felt the need to change their name during World War One.
Wouldn't do to let the plebs know that the Royal family they were fighting for were more German than the people in the opposite trenches!

IIRC the name change happened in 1917, after a very public campaign by the tabloid media. So your contention that it was to cover up their German lineage is totally incorrect (everyone already knew their German roots - the name change was due to media pressure for a symbolic act of British patriotism regarding their name)

[cooperation]

we all know this is a PR stunt. And harry AKA whatever will be kept safe and sound out of the way of harm. Bless his little cotten socks.

[alonso]

surely his name should be Harry Hewitt?

[JCSkinner]

Mind you, one understands exactly why they felt the need to change their name during World War One.
Wouldn't do to let the plebs know that the Royal family they were fighting for were more German than the people in the opposite trenches!

IIRC the name change happened in 1917, after a very public campaign by the tabloid media. So your contention that it was to cover up their German lineage is totally incorrect (everyone already knew their German roots - the name change was due to media pressure for a symbolic act of British patriotism regarding their name)

A symbolic act of British patriotism like, oooh, sending the second son to a war zone to hide in the Green Zone, avoiding combat?
Or like sending the previous second son to war in the South Atlantic and leaving him on the boat?
That sort of token patriotism, you mean?

[mactheknife]

Obviously accuracy isn't your strong point. (So no change there then.) If you argue that the family could not change their name, then as Elizabeth Windsor married Philip Mountbatten, then following the normal paternal surname rule, Harry would be Harry Mountbatten. Either which way, it is not Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

Ah, but Mountbatten was a contrived name, Prince Philip's surname at birth was:

Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg or Slesvig-Holsten-Sønderborg-Lyksborg (Danish)

HRH Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark

Here's a question for The Analyzer: what is Prince Philip's religion? Is he not Eastern Orthodox (the adopted religion of the Greek Royal family, the one in which presumably Philip was baptised?)

[FakeViking]

surely his name should be Harry Hewitt?

Best post today!