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    Israeli court jails Arab man for pretending to be Jewish: 'rape by deception'.

    A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

    Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

    When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

    Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not "a classical rape by force," the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

    The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

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    Segal said: "The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims – actual and potential – to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price."
    Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew | World news | The Guardian

    What a bizarre ruling! If every man who lied to get a woman into bed was jailed...

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    More racism for the apparteid state. This is really unbelieveable and quite ouvertly racist.
    "Man lies to have sex with woman" is ridiculous but in Israel "Arab man lies to have sex with Jewish woman" means jail time.


    The cabinet is expected to approve a series of measures on Sunday that would make it harder for Palestinians to acquire permanent residency or citizenship in Israel. The most notable would require Palestinians to declare their loyalty to "a Jewish and democratic state" before being granted Israeli citizenship.

    The measures will primarily affect Palestinian men and women who marry Israeli citizens and then seek citizenship on the basis of family reunification.
    Palestinians may soon have to swear loyalty to 'Jewish' state - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

    They really don't give a f*ck do they, racists. How the abused have become the abusers.
    If a Jewish man were to do the same and were convicted we would hear cries of "whats wrong with sleeping with a Jewish guy, racists! " yet here Jewish women befoul "the sanctity of their bodies and souls" if they have sex with an arab.


    Wasn't their a time when black folk got a whippin' for looking at white women? Behold the only 'civilised' country amongst the barbarian Arabs.
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    Gideon Levy, a liberal Israeli commentator, was quoted as saying: "I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman?

    "Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not."
    Further proof that 'the Middle East's only democracy' is in fact a deeply f***ed up society. No doubt the usual slew of apologists will be here once the GIYUS alert sounds, ready and eager to defend the indefensible.

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    Israel really is a racist, apartheid, state that needs to be boycotted by any decent human being.

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    Rape by deception is a crime in Israel. In 2008 an Israeli Jew, Zvi Sleiman, was sentenced to 10 years in jail for pretending to be a senior official from the Ministry of Housing, in order to lure women into bed.

    The Supreme Court overturned his appeal, with Judge Eliakim Rubinstein ruling that a conviction for rape should be imposed any time a "person does not tell the truth regarding critical matters to a reasonable woman, and as a result of misrepresentation she has sexual relations with him."
    Palestinian sentenced for 'rape by deception' of Israeli to appeal | Earth Times News

    What a freakshow of a society...

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    It's a crime in different countries. Why is it such a big deal that Israel have it? Are the UK and US racists as well for having similar laws? Do you guys think it's ok to obtain sex by deception?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    It's a crime in lots of place, which has had successful convictions in different countries. Why is it such a big deal that Israel have it? Are the UK and US racists as well for having similar laws? Do you guys think it's ok to obtain sex by deception?
    Oh well, we didnt have long to wait for the extreme right wing brigade to come along to defend racist fundamentalism.

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    He'd be stoned to death if he slept with a Jewish woman in a Muslim country. I guess, in one sense, jail time isn't too bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    Oh well, we didnt have long to wait for the extreme right wing brigade to come along to defend racist fundamentalism.
    So you do think it's ok to obtain sex by deception?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    It's a crime in lots of place, which has had successful convictions in different countries. Why is it such a big deal that Israel have it? Are the UK and US racists as well for having similar laws? Do you guys think it's ok to obtain sex by deception?
    Well, just for comparison's sake, could you provide examples of where having sex with a person who lied about his religious/ethnic identity was legally considered to besmirch "the sanctity" of women's "bodies and souls"?

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