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Thread: Israeli court jails Arab man for pretending to be Jewish: 'rape by deception'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didimus View Post
    Which does not mean that this or indeed any or all of the previous complaints were unfounded.
    A woman with psychriatric problems involved in the "sex trade" is not going to be a prosecutions's choice of witness in a rape trial.
    If this report is true it does show that much of the comment here has been based on incomplete information.
    If the rape by deception charge was indeed brought by prosecution service your description of the woman as a racist slapper is a little premature.
    None of which alters the fact that a judge cited him not telling her he was an Arab as constituting "rape by deception". That sets a dangerous precedent whereby consensual sex between an Arab and a Jew will be criminalised in Israel unless the Arab reveals their ethnicity. That is racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    None of which alters the fact that a judge cited him not telling her he was an Arab as constituting "rape by deception". That sets a dangerous precedent whereby consensual sex between an Arab and a Jew will be criminalised in Israel unless the Arab reveals their ethnicity. That is racist.
    Apologies.
    I thought you were referring to the complainant as a racist slapper.

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    "Recently, the Tel Aviv weekly Ha'ir published the transcript of the trial in which Sabbar Kashur, an Arab, was convicted of rape by deceit, duping a woman by posing as a Jew named Dudu. As it turns out according to the report by Lital Grossman, the sex was not consensual, but was actually rape, of the clear-cut, cruel "simple" kind.
    "He told me that if I were quiet and did not resist, then it would be, like, it would be over more quickly and it would not be, like, he would not use force. But I did resist and it was by force" - with blood and scratches and scars, which are documented at the hospital to which she was taken Indeed, the original indictment was for forcible rape and the accused was the one to initiate the plea bargain, in which he confessed "only" to rape by deception"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    And how (short of him being a mind-reader) was he to know that his race would disqualify him from sleeping with her?
    i would have thought it (apartheid) would have been drummed into him from the first day at school..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse View Post
    well spotted...
    the amount of unadulterated anti semitism expressed in this thread was obscene...
    at least the truth has come out now.
    There were some disgraceful comments alright. People in this thread let their blind hatred of Israel cloud their judgement, to the extent of showing sympathy for a rapist (some even denying he was a rapist) and condemning his victim. Many on here were willing to clear a rapist because he is an Arab and his victim was an Israeli Jew. Their blind hatred of Israel clouded whatever decency they had and their compassion was also clouded as a result of that hatred of Israel, when they directed that to the rapist and condemned the rape victim

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