The person who filmed the shots fired at the Polish Plane Crash has been murdered.

[Clanrickard]

This Obituary set me thinking. I quote you the following taken from the Editorial, Mayo Association Yearbook 2002

Ah yes that esteemed tome.

[WTTR]

[QUOTE=soubresauts;2627743]Has Cardinal Connell died?

QUOTE]

Ops, no it appears not. Sorry my big mistake! Thank you for pointing this out.

[WTTR]

Yes, things just aren't the same since they ended the Spanish Inquisition. We need to revert to the old ways and burn heretics and witches as obviously the financial melt down is God's punishment for suffering them to live. :mrgreen:

Our Society today is worse than any Jackboot fascist society. The problem today is that Mammon rules; instead of money being a means to an end, it is dominating all walks of life. Our present situation is sujecting us to the breakdown of society:

• the worry by Gardai representative bodies that some of their members could be tempted to take bribes because of the negative equity some of their members are in
• The near 300,000 who are in negative equity
• The increase in Suicides as a result of financial pressures
• The near 500,000 on the unemployment register
• The dire situation that children are brought up in, because our society requires, two salaries, to fund a house purchase
• The bail out of wealty people while an increasing number of citizens are now living in poverty
• The protection of Bond holders resulting in above hardship
• etc

None of the above would have happened if good principles of banking, auditing, and economics held sway. Just like in Fascist Germany, the intelligentsia rode along; in our case with the crass doctrine of making money at all costs. This would not have happened if the protection of the family in according with orthodox Christian Teaching had any input in to government policy formation. It had not, the Christian Family with an in situ Father and Mother is no longer held out as an overall aim of our politicians. What has taken its place is a system where the State pays for the upkeep of many different forms of family. Children are no loner the responsibility of natural parents. But alas, money now dictates that the State rows back from providing for children

The attacks on our young children and parents are continuing apace. Recent budgets doubled the cost of school transport, withdrew subsidies from School Books etc. Many other Educational Fees are to be introduced. Medical fees are increasing all the time; outpatients etc. Parents are lumbered with massive mortgage repayments; Negative Equity turn them into “bonded labourers”. The McCarthy report and the Commission for Taxation recommend the abolition of capital allowances for childcare facilities, the income tax exemption for childcare service providers: with tentative caveats mentioned. It also recommends subjecting child benefit to income tax. The attention given to families problems with the rearing of children is abysmal. Is it any wonder that law and order is breaking down? All this indicates that we have not a clue of the problems that the EU is facing. They are suffering from a horrendous fall in the birthrate. Our society is cutting its own throat by concentrating on policy to facilitate an “Aging Society”. This is a trap that the EU is in; what are they doing about it? The Lisbon Treaty (TLT) revisions mention “market” 63 times, “competition” 25 times, “defense” 50 times. “Birthrate” Nil times. Capitalism requires growth, the EU is an elderly society and will be shrinking rapidly. EU pension and hedge funds have lost tens of billions in USA sub-prime; they are also sitting on huge amounts of other toxic assets, the true nature of which has to be revealed to the public. Those people paying into pension funds, not yet drawing a pension will be massively short changed; it is just another ponzi scheme. TLT will only result in a continuance of more asset bubbles and rip-offs. John F Higgins.eu | the lisbon treaty

The Christian family in Ireland is now defunct. The rearing of children away from their natural parents is the accepted norm. The State is now abandoning them. We are lost sheep!

The Church means more than the Spanish Inquisition; this happened because raw animal like human nature of mortals obviously took control of the Church. The Church is run by us mortals, these things happen every now and again. The present hellish society that we live in has been created by godless mortal actions in the abscese of Christian thinking. All in all, the core Doctrine of the Church, the church I know, is there and any reading of the Vatican website never indicates anything that is anti-life. Read it, it wont bite you. It is a very valuable source of the positiveness that life can be. Whereas, because we decided to reject Christian teaching, we are now living in an anti life/child scenario; all because we now as a race worship at the altar of Mammon.

Respect for life has been a precious grace within the Christian upbringing. If we do not have respect for life from conception; then it opens the gates as to lots of argument as to when life should be valued e.g. should abortion be not allowed at 14 weeks or near full term; at what stage should we introduce euthanasia; should we kill children who are not fully formed; should we saddle our youth with massive debt early on in life in a way that they will be slaves for the rest of their lives. Respect for life begins at conception. Nothing else should be even entertained. No WILL about it. I fully disagree with what Obama has done in reversing the Bush ban on embryo destruction. candidatewatch.ie: John Francis Higgins

[WTTR]

Ah yes that esteemed tome.

I make no apology in quoting from it. The main impetus in writing it was the fact that house values doubled between 1995 and 2000. The writer tried to warn people of this madness by putting down his understanding of the precariousness of the then current thinking; that was leading to this rapidly developing exploitation of young Irish men and women. At the same time, the writer sent off quotations from it, to scores of politicians, bankers, newspapers editors, Third level Economics and government departments etc.

The writer saw the imbalance in the wider world and EU economy opening up; knew that the youth of Ireland would be targeted by unscrupulous International Buccaneers. Tried to warn those called to protect our assets and resources i.e. our politicians; whom he had an inkling were not wary or savvy enough to understand the forces that were lining up against our wee State. Sadly, despite the above and warning politicians to their face; the writer had to watch the Irish been led straight into the cauldron of our current financial disaster. Our politicians did not have a clue about the laws that they were passing in Leinster House and Brussels; especially how they were legally laying the groundwork for the financial plundering of this wee country of ours.

The writer was not employed by the State, was not in receipt of State Income; put himself offside with a lot of his fellow professionals and friends; especially when he recommended that our hydrocarbons should be exploited instead of our young Irish men and women. He tried to behave like any concerned citizen would be expected to behave; never thought that he was no worse or better than the people he was trying to warn. He tried to give the State some service; knowing that the cost to him was to be severe if his warnings went unheeded!

[Clanrickard]

All in all, the core Doctrine of the Church, the church I know, is there and any reading of the Vatican website never indicates anything that is anti-life. Read it, it wont bite you. It is a very valuable source of the positiveness that life can be. .

Hiding paedo priests?

[The Field Marshal]

I make no apology in quoting from it. The main impetus in writing it was the fact that house values doubled between 1995 and 2000. The writer tried to warn people of this madness by putting down his understanding of the precariousness of the then current thinking; that was leading to this rapidly developing exploitation of young Irish men and women. At the same time, the writer sent off quotations from it, to scores of politicians, bankers, newspapers editors, Third level Economics and government departments etc.

The writer saw the imbalance in the wider world and EU economy opening up; knew that the youth of Ireland would be targeted by unscrupulous International Buccaneers. Tried to warn those called to protect our assets and resources i.e. our politicians; whom he had an inkling were not wary or savvy enough to understand the forces that were lining up against our wee State. Sadly, despite the above and warning politicians to their face; the writer had to watch the Irish been led straight into the cauldron of our current financial disaster. Our politicians did not have a clue about the laws that they were passing in Leinster House and Brussels; especially how they were legally laying the groundwork for the financial plundering of this wee country of ours.

The writer was not employed by the State, was not in receipt of State Income; put himself offside with a lot of his fellow professionals and friends; especially when he recommended that our hydrocarbons should be exploited instead of our young Irish men and women. He tried to behave like any concerned citizen would be expected to behave; never thought that he was no worse or better than the people he was trying to warn. He tried to give the State some service; knowing that the cost to him was to be severe if his warnings went unheeded!

Off topic

[WTTR]

You need to use the Edit function...

Thank you. I usually do as I am an atroscious speller! Now corrected.The sentence was an after thought

[anewbeginning]

I thought modern aircraft could land in fog using radar and the like.

It's odd that the pilot would attempt a risky descent without the help of radar or something like that.

In essence the pilot gambled, or that's the official version.

But if you were a pilot with almost 100 of the most important people in your country on board, would you gamble?

So they have to land somewhere else and the ceremony is delayed for a while, that's not such a big deal. Surely the pilot advised those on board it wasn't safe to land.

Any word on the blackbox voice recorders?

As for an investigation, there is no way I would trust the Russians to carry out a proper one.

[ManfredJudge]

The President had a previous pilot who refused to land where the President wanted sacked.

[anewbeginning]

Fair point.