Depends on the laws of the country they stray into and what the political game is between the two at the time.Originally Posted by forest
Iran might decide to make a point by sticking it to the UK or it might decide to come over all humanitarian. Depends on what they think works best for them.
The waterway where the incident occurred is just 800m wide in places. Easy to stray.
Plus sometimes the straying is on purpose, as a test of reaction.
Parading military prisoners on tv etc is also against the geneva convention.
Well this picture says it allhow are 'Irish Republicans supporting Islamo-fascism'
http://www.coiste.ie/politicaltours/pol ... bea_82.jpg
Not so sure that is quite correct Terry - I think if the purpose is to humiliate them or subject them to degrading treatment then its against the Convention.
Europa Conventus Delenda Est
But they could be held, put under investigation and made to stand trial?
That's what happened to the SAS men seized at the Border back in 1976 IIRC.But they could be held, put under investigation and made to stand trial?
They were released though after being charged and had to return to Dublin for their Trial some months later.
Europa Conventus Delenda Est
Not so sure that is quite correct Terry - I think if the purpose is to humiliate them or subject them to degrading treatment then its against the Convention.
Read 4.1............
i. Introduction
ii. Who is a Prisoner of War
iii. How Should Prisoners of War be Treated by the Detaining Power
1. Humane Treatment
2. Interrogation
3. Right to Fair Trial
4. Release of POWs
iv. Specific Issues raised in the current Gulf War
1. Filming of POWs
2. Hooding
3. a. Unlawful Combatants
b. Prosecution by US-sponsored Iraqi-led forum
i. Introduction
Since the War on Iraq began on 20 March 2003, concerns have been raised with regards to the treatment of Prisoners of War (POW) by both sides to the conflict. This briefing aims to provide background information on international humanitarian law, specifically focusing on the definition of a POW (section ii) and the protection it affords (section iii). It then provides a clarification to some of the issues that have been raised namely the broadcasting of POWs on television, the hooding of POWs, and their treatment in post war Iraq.
ii. Who is a Prisoner of War?
According to the Third Geneva Convention of 1949, prisoners of war (POWs) are combatants in an international armed conflict who have fallen into the hands of the enemy. Persons entitled to POW status fall into six categories (Article 4). They include
1. Members of the armed forces, members of militia or volunteers corps
2. Other members of militia or volunteers corps, including organized resistance movements provided that
- they are commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
- they have a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
- that they carry arms openly;
-that they conduct their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
3. Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
4. Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members, provided that they receive authorization in the form of identity cards from the armed forces they accompany. This category includes captured war correspondents who would be entitled to the protections of POW status.
5. Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not receive more favourable treatment under other provisions of international law.
6. civilian taking up arms spontaneously take up arms against invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
The Geneva Convention stipulates that if doubt arises as to whether captured persons are entitled to POW status, they should be treated as such until it is determined by a competent tribunal (Article 5).
iii. How should Prisoners of War be treated by the Detaining Power?
The Third Geneva Convention comes in to effect immediately upon capture. The Detaining Power is ultimately responsible for the treatment of the POWs, not the individual military units that captured them. A few of their responsibilities are briefly outlined below:
1. Humane Treatment
• POWs must be humanely treated at all times; they may not be subject to torture or ill treatment or killed due to any unlawful act or omission. Punishment or revenge attacks against POWs are absolutely prohibited.
• POWs must be protected at all times; particularly, against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity whether by enemy forces or civilians.
• Women POWs must be treated with due regard for their gender and be given at least the same rights and protections as men. Children who are POWs are entitled to special treatment.
2. Interrogation
• POWs are only obliged to reveal their name, rank, date of birth, and military serial number or equivalent information. Physical or mental torture or other coercive measures may not be used to obtain any information. POWs may not be subjected to threats, insults, or exposed to unpleasant or detrimental treatment for refusing to answer.
3. Right to Fair Trial
• No prisoner of war may be tried or sentenced retrospectively for an act not deemed illegal by the Detaining Power or by international law, at the time of commission.
• Only a military court may try prisoners of war unless under existing laws of the Detaining Power civil courts are expressly permitted to try armed forces members of the Detaining Power with regards to the particular offence alleged to have been committed by the prisoner of war.
• POWs cannot be prosecuted for simply having joined in the armed conflict. However, if applicable they may be prosecuted for war crimes.
4. Release of POWs
• Unless they are liable to prosecution, POWs must be released and repatriated immediately after the end of active hostilities.
iv. Specific Issues Raised in the Gulf War:
1. Filming of Prisoners of War
The showing of captured US soldiers on Iraqi television on 23 March sparked accusations from President Bush and Prime Minister Blair that the Iraqis had breached Article 13 of the Geneva Convention. Under the provision, Detaining Powers must not expose POWs to public curiosity by parading or interrogating them in front of the media.
An examination into the horrific murder of 13 IDF soldiers in Jenin has indicated that Palestinian terrorists are being trained by the Irish Republican Army (IRA) in the construction of deadly booby trap bombs
http://www.israelinsider.com/views/arti ... s_0378.htm
PLO
Hezbollah
Hamas Middle East Supplied arms to IRA most notably from Lebanon. Provide much needed training for IRA in return for information on car-bombs and other 'home-made' devices which have been used to terrorise the Middle East Organised attacks on Israel and anti-American due to their support of the Jews.
Iran Government gave IRA £20m deposited in account run by agent of Hezbollah in 'Jersey Account'
http://www.victims.org.uk/america.html
What does it say? What is 'Islamo-fascism'? Were the PLO 'Islamo-fascist' (whatever the f*ck that is)?
You clown! Did you even read it?!
What a load of total bollox!
Are the IRA also sharing information with Iran on how to make nuclear weapons??
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