Petraeus:Israeli intransigence could cost American lives

[Shirley Temple Mount]

Are you suggesting that Israeli society is psychotic? .

No I'm not suggesting it. I'm stating it. Israelis have utterly lost contact with reality. They live in a bubble within which Palestinians are lesser creatures with which they occupy their delusions. They are reinforced in their psychosis with the belief that other countries cant see that they are psychotic. The reason why they are allowed to persist to believe this is because of the protection from censure they enjoy at the UN due to US hegemony.

Israeli society is in a psychosis which is dangerous to others around who are definitely not psychotic due to the fact that living next door to a psychotic neighbour you are assured of a painful dose of reality on a regular basis. This usually comes in the form of mass murder.

Well over due time for a dose of medicine for the murderously psychotic patient.

[JSLeFanu]

No I'm not suggesting it. I'm stating it. Israelis have utterly lost contact with reality. They live in a bubble within which Palestinians are lesser creatures with which they occupy their delusions. They are reinforced in their psychosis with the belief that other countries cant see that they are psychotic. The reason why they are allowed to persist to believe this is because of the protection from censure they enjoy at the UN due to US hegemony.

Israeli society is in a psychosis which is dangerous to others around who are definitely not psychotic due to the fact that living next door to a psychotic neighbour you are assured of a painful dose of reality on a regular basis. This usually comes in the form of mass murder.

Well over due time for a dose of medicine for the murderously psychotic patient.

Looks like you've got it all figured out. Those around the only functioning democracy in the Middle East are the sane ones and it's only the Israeli nutters get a vote.

Isn't that just typical? It should be the other way round don't you think? How did these nut jobs construct a democracy which provides the highest quality of life and the most social equality while those sane Arabs live in dysfunctional hellholes.? Odd that these bastions of sanity haven't done better, don't you think? Any theories about this (ideally ones which don't involve pinning responsibility on a global Zionist Masonic plot)?

[jcdf]

No I'm not suggesting it. I'm stating it. Israelis have utterly lost contact with reality. They live in a bubble within which Palestinians are lesser creatures with which they occupy their delusions. They are reinforced in their psychosis with the belief that other countries cant see that they are psychotic.

They do live in a bubble, but then so do most others including their neighbours.

The reason why they are allowed to persist to believe this is because of the protection from censure they enjoy at the UN due to US hegemony.

Countries see very little, only what they want to see, when it is in their interest to see it. Many will ignore Israel because they having to gain from upsetting them. Many will condemn Israel simply because it is in their favour to do thus buying them the goodwill of OPEC or OIC.

I think you over estimate the power of the UN and Americas influence there.

Israeli society is in a psychosis which is dangerous to others around who are definitely not psychotic due to the fact that living next door to a psychotic neighbour you are assured of a painful dose of reality on a regular basis. This usually comes in the form of mass murder.

Well over due time for a dose of medicine for the murderously psychotic patient.

'Definitely not psychotic' I think most of the world would fall into this category and certainly the Arabs.

[Davidka]

There is another aspect to this and that is the approach Obama has taken after the spat with the Israeli government. Rather than have a nice closed doors discussion at Camp David (there may be one yet) the US went off to the Middle East quartet and opened up a wider diplomatic front against Tel Aviv by getting the Quartet to criticise Israeli settlement activity.

That means in essence that the issue of who backs down becomes more pronounced. If Israel does not halt settlements Obama is seen to lose, so the stakes are high for the US. Obama has cleared the decks at home now after a huge effort to get Health Care reform through. Can an equally determined performance bring Israel to heel so substantive talks can begin? Bloody hope so.

Very true. You'd wonder what's going on with Israel here all the same. A nuclear-enabled Iran, with Ahmadinejad as the reincarnation of Hitler, has been cited as an imminent existential threat to Israel. Most Sunni Arab states wouldn't mind seen Iran being yoked back - KSA in particular - and at worst Israel might get an implicit coalition of these prepared to look the other way if action is to be taken against Iran. The current process of ramping up settlements diminishes the possibility of this and, at the same time as trying to face down your strongest ally, seems a perverse way of containing/eliminating an existential threat.

[JSLeFanu]

Hi SAT, good to have ya back. Forgive me I chopped the name calling bits out, time pressures deny me the fun of dealing with them at the moment, now, Syrian democracy.

These nine opposition parties you speak of how did they do in the last Syrian elections anyway?

How many of them ran a candidate against President Assad and how, pray tell, did they get on? What percentage of the vote did they get, individually and collectively.

I know you read a lot, and stuff, so I'm relying on your book learnin here again. Thanks SAT.

SAT, still waiting.