Petraeus:Israeli intransigence could cost American lives

[JSLeFanu]

You contradict yourself in every sentence and you seem incapable of reading much less understanding the answers to questions you pose. You ask who is the leader of the opposition and I tell you there are 9 opposition parties in Syria. You still want to know who the leader of the opposition is. It evidently hasn't occurred to you each party has it's own leader Syria's election returns no surprises: Peter Hall reports from Damascus. - Free Online Library You accuse me of a blood libel and then without a thought for your own inconsistency, in the same breath, you then quote a newspaper confirming what I said. I have already pointed out if something is true then it is not libellous but this obvious truth evidently went straight over your head. You ramble on incoherently about Al Qaeda in a fashion which suggests you totally and completely missed the rather simple point I was making of how extremist parties are banned from taking part in elections in Syria but that this is not unusual even in far less draconian states. Tell me who ties your laces for you in the morning?

Hi SAT, good to have ya back. Forgive me I chopped the name calling bits out, time pressures deny me the fun of dealing with them at the moment, now, Syrian democracy.

These nine opposition parties you speak of how did they do in the last Syrian elections anyway?

How many of them ran a candidate against President Assad and how, pray tell, did they get on? What percentage of the vote did they get, individually and collectively.

I know you read a lot, and stuff, so I'm relying on your book learnin here again. Thanks SAT.

[Shirley Temple Mount]

Here's another point. There is no peace process. There can be none until Palestinians accept Israel is there to stay and they renounce violence as a means to securing the whole of mandate Palestine as their won. They have not done so in fact they say one thing in public and another in private when they think nobody is listening.

Another stupid incorrect point, Clandickard.

It's Israel that flatly rejects the Palestinian State, in writing. What hope is there for peace with these fanatics in government ?

Likud - Platform

[SIZE="3"]The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.[/SIZE]

[turdsl]

The pressure is building on Israel at last for their horrific deeds during the last invasion, If Obama gets through with his health bill, it should give him confidence to stand up to Israel, he now has the support of the rest of the quartet now,

[JSLeFanu]

The pressure is building on Israel at last for their horrific deeds during the last invasion, If Obama gets through with his health bill, it should give him confidence to stand up to Israel, he now has the support of the rest of the quartet now,

Is that the Obama burried under the worst disapproval ratings for a sitting president at this early stage of his term? That Obama? Dream on.

[Beyond_brainwashing]

There seems to be a remarkable deterioration in relations between America and Israel in recent weeks following Joe Biden's failed trip to Israel.

Now there are reports that General David Petraeus, who is probably America's most respected military commander, has become extremely critical of Israel.

In a briefing, Petraeus warned that, in the Arab world, the US is seen as weak and it's military posture is eroding. This was due to Israel's perceived manipulation of US foreign policy. Petraeus even requested that Palestine/Israel become part of the area of Central Command, which he commands.

Petraeus: Israel's Intransigence Could Cost American Lives

This is reminiscent of a staged fight that Roy and Moss had on the Graham Linehan Channel 4 comedy "The IT Crowd" except that didn't end with the bomibing of Iran.

[Thac0man]

There is another aspect to this and that is the approach Obama has taken after the spat with the Israeli government. Rather than have a nice closed doors discussion at Camp David (there may be one yet) the US went off to the Middle East quartet and opened up a wider diplomatic front against Tel Aviv by getting the Quartet to criticise Israeli settlement activity.

That means in essence that the issue of who backs down becomes more pronounced. If Israel does not halt settlements Obama is seen to lose, so the stakes are high for the US. Obama has cleared the decks at home now after a huge effort to get Health Care reform through. Can an equally determined performance bring Israel to heel so substantive talks can begin?

Bloody hope so.

[Clanrickard]

Another stupid incorrect point, Clandickard.

It's Israel that flatly rejects the Palestinian State, in writing. What hope is there for peace with these fanatics in government ?

Likud - Platform

[SIZE="3"]The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.[/SIZE]

That is Likud not the government. In many opinion polls Israelis say they would agree to a Palestinian State.

[Shirley Temple Mount]

That is Likud not the government.

Ohh.... the hypocrisy of you

[Shirley Temple Mount]

In many opinion polls Israelis say they would agree to a Palestinian State.

Here is a poll that clearly shows the psychosis in Israeli society that has now infected people like you, who now really don't know their arse from their elbow in relation to what constitutes a "Two State Solution". This poll proves nothing other than the fact that Israelis are ignorant of what is required of them. A comprehensive boycott of every aspect of Israeli society is required to make them realise that their self-delusion must end.

Poll: Most Israelis support east Jerusalem construction - Israel News, Ynetnews

...most of those asked by the survey supported the view that construction in east Jerusalem should be treated like construction in Tel Aviv...with 41% saying that only the timing was wrong.
A majority of 58% supported a partial evacuation of settlements, but 47% agreed with previous governments' decisions to found settlements in the West Bank, while 40% did not.
A majority of 66% supported the founding of a Palestinian state based on the 1967 borders with land-swaps allowing Israel to keep large settlement blocs.

[jcdf]

Are you suggesting that Israeli society is psychotic? If you are, then why condemn them? Only the Israelis and Palestinians can stop the madness, if you write one of them off as beyond reason then all negotiations become pointless and so do your arguments.

In our increasing multipolar world boycotting is losing it's potency as an instrument of social change. So you may be wasting your breath.