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    So does Ireland still have its own foreign policy?

    Looks like it's been subsumed into that of the EU, which seems to encapsulate a growing tide of racism and misoxeny.

    The entire Foreign Affairs forum reads like the Stormfront message board. I fear for Ireland's future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al. View Post
    Looks like it's been subsumed into that of the EU, which seems to encapsulate a growing tide of racism and misoxeny.
    Miso what? Is this a new Politically Correct term for xenophobia?

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    What we have left will not be for this world very long. Though I wouldn't blame the EU for the weird freaks that stalk these boards....

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    What we have left will not be for this world very long. Though I wouldn't blame the EU for the weird freaks that stalk these boards....
    Perhaps they are EUsians but they don't realise it yet. Still it is worrying to see the signs of the mistakes of the last century being repeated in this one.

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    Oh great. One hour into a new year and the paranoid anti-EU sh1te from Al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyO'Brien View Post
    Oh great. One hour into a new year and the paranoid anti-EU sh1te from Al.
    Well at least he is brief in his paranoia. Where's the heart wrenching anecdote about how you or someone you know has been affected by anti-EUsian sentiment? Happy New Year anyway and may you get an FG government this year.

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    Being a neutral and unimportant country, Ireland does not have it sown foreign policy really.

    Oh yeah and I just gotz aborted by the EU. By a Gerry no less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al. View Post
    Looks like it's been subsumed into that of the EU, which seems to encapsulate a growing tide of racism and misoxeny.

    The entire Foreign Affairs forum reads like the Stormfront message board. I fear for Ireland's future.
    When did we ever have our own foreign policy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    Miso what? Is this a new Politically Correct term for xenophobia?
    Only if you regard terms like "misogeny" as "politically correct" and prefer to say "gynophobia" instead. But "gynophobe" doesn't describe someone who hates women...

    Simple really: where "xenophobia" means fear of foreigners, "misoxeny" means hatred of foreigners. (It's not a neologism; it's been in use AFAICS for years.)
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    Being a neutral and unimportant country
    Unimportant? Is that Germany's new assessment of their vassal state to the west?

    Neutral is inaccurate.
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    When did we ever have our own foreign policy?
    Good question. Whose foreign policies have we adopted over the years as our own? A timeline might be handy...and saying so means that Ireland has never been independent at any time.
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    We've always had an independent foreign policy on the things that interest us - the Non-Proliferation Treaty, the Statute of Westminster, Northern Ireland, agricultural free trade, East Timor, etc.
    But, we're a small country without much influence to expend and we've always had to be selective about which issues to fight hard for and which to go with the flow on.

    We've no interest in the vast majority of global issues; how many Irish people care about the state of relations between the PRC and Taiwan?
    It's to our advantage to co-ordinate our policies in such areas with countries that do care about them and share our moral values, especially since it significantly increases our leverage on the issues we're focussed on.

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