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    Ukraine academic: Israel imported 25,000 kids for their organs

    Ukraine academic: Israel imported 25,000 kids for their organs - Haaretz - Israel News

    Stories appearing on several Ukrainian Web sites claim Israel has brought around some 25,000 Ukrainian children into the country over the past two years in order to harvest their organs.

    The claim, which was made by a Ukrainian philosophy professor and author at a pseudo-academic conference in Kiev five days ago, is the latest expression of a wave of anti-Semitism in the country. It comes a few months after a Swedish tabloid ran an article alleging that Israel Defense Forces soldiers have killed Palestinian civilians for their organs.
    If Israel can shoot more children in the head in their assault last January, than rockets fired by Hamas between April and November, the above report doesn't surprise me at all.
    Israels level of child abuse is on a scale unquantifiable by comparsion to Ireland.
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    Wow. The internet does a wonderful job in exposing how many credulous idiots there are in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfReason View Post
    Wow. The internet does a wonderful job in exposing how many credulous idiots there are in the world.
    +1

    And anti-semites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    And anti-semites.
    to be anti Israeli and anti semetic can be two different positions

    Israel is a rogue nation

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    Trouble all over the world, nobody posts on various conflicts in Africa but are obsessed with Israel.

    Why the obsession with Israel?

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    Ok let's take this slowly, as we only have this one article about something someone said about someone else's search in Israel:

    Vyacheslav Gudin told the estimated 300 attendees of the Kiev conference a detailed story about a Ukrainian man's fruitless search for 15 children who had been adopted in Israel. The children, Gudin said, had clearly been taken by Israeli medical centers, where they were used for "spare parts." Gudin said it was essential that all Ukrainians be made aware of the genocide Israel was perpetrating.
    First of all: Even if this ludicrous story was true, that's not genocide.

    Second: If I go looking for my son that I've given up for adoption in the UK, and fail to find him....that doesn't mean that MI5 have kidnapped him for experimentation.

    Third: If I go to England and start asking about Irish kids that's aren't mine but were given up for adoption? I'll be told to get lost.

    Fourth: There's no link at all between "Well I couldn't find 15 kids. So that extrapolates to 25000"

    This is a comic book story with no facts and no foundation to be believed. Both Israel and the Palestinians have committed war crimes. There's no doubt about it. But Israel are not in fact from the pages of He-Man and are not kidnapping .5% of Ukraine's children to murder and open them up.

    Use some critical thinking. Do you think on the balance of probability that Israel have some agenda against Ukranian children, or is it more likely that this is a political gambit to try and swing opinion against a candidate? Cop yourself on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    Trouble all over the world, nobody posts on various conflicts in Africa but are obsessed with Israel.

    Why the obsession with Israel?
    They get to kill whom they want when they want. They get to steal other people's land and not have a internationally defined border.

    Israel is not really a country at all if you don't have a defined border. It is a theocratic state manufactured by the Brits for people of the Jewish religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    Trouble all over the world, nobody posts on various conflicts in Africa but are obsessed with Israel.

    Why the obsession with Israel?
    Probably because Israel claims to be a democratic country and fully paid up member of western civilisation, claims that are believed by a majority in the West. These claims allow for massive American backed financing of Israeli defence, and preferential trade status with the EU. No such claims are made by post-colonial African regimes, and if they are, nobody in the West believes them. Consequently, no such indulgences are permitted.

    Btw, the report above sounds like nonsense to me, but Israel is a rogue state and probably doomed anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    +1

    And anti-semites.
    +1 aswell. Unsuprisingly there are parralells with Nazi propoganda about Jew child killers.


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    This bull helps no one. Certainly it doesn't help those who have legitimate cause for complaint against Israel.
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