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    Northern Ireland History Repeating Itself in Iraq

    I'm getting a sense of Deja vu here!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6360261.stm

    Iraqis beaten tortured and killed in custody by British soldiers and surprise surprise cleared of all charges by a British judge.

    There truly is no justice on this planet.

    As can be seen from this article the British have every intention of of using every dirty trick they developed in Ireland over the last few decades, in Iraq. The latest incarnation of the "Force Research Unit", now called "Joint Support Group" is already at work in Iraq.

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021307J.shtml

    Unless the Iraqis can inflict some serious casualties on the British and Americans to force them out of Iraq in the next couple of years they too will end up suffering decades of division and provoked sectarian strife.

    Is there a country that Britain has invaded that hasn't erupted into civil war due to their interference?
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    One thing Iraq doesnt have is half the population in complete denial of every british wrong doing, and half a population who cannot and wont see the negative impact of imerial occupation.

    Maybe britain will draw up another wee box, call it "Northen Iraqland"" fill it full of brits and say that iraq will never unite until the majority of the people in this wee box say they want to.

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    How dare you say that - it is a scurrilous attack on Her Majestys justice in Northern Ireland, the army would never have had to go to court there, just send the poor lads home, (overworked teenagers you know, really only boys), give them a rest and to show there is no hard feelings p[romotion and a medal, must keep morale up you know.
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    More than anything else, it shows that this is the standard operational procedure of the British. Their approach to dealing with those that oppose them in a country they have invaded. The NI situation is not unique. We have Lt. Col. Gordon Kerr (FRU) moved from NI to Iraq to help set up the JSG and will now probably run sectarian assassins.

    As for the US they have brought the tactic of the death squads they helped establish in El Salvador to Iraq. We have John Negroponte once based in El Salvador transferred to Iraq and all of a sudden death squads are roaming Iraq and hundreds of bodies turning up in rubbish dumps.

    Is it not time that people demanded that their governments publicly denounce these tactics. Try to shame these countries for their actions?

    Britain and the US are not the powers they used to be. With a concerted approach by the international community they could be forced to change the tactics they use and stop this horror and sorrow they perpetrate.

    With the setting up of the JSG in Iraq, it has to bring into question how genuine the British are about the peace process in NI, since they so readily employ these same tactics used in Ireland now in Iraq.

    Has the NI peace process been part of a long term strategy now being employed in Iraq?
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    1 maxim. DIVIDE AND RULE.

    Thats why two SAS guys were caught out of uniform (dressed up as Arabs), with bombs ready for planting.

    I wonder if it was in order to get some or other faction pissed at another?

    It also does not stop there. Notice when Olmert released $100mil to the Fathah out of power party in Gaza? Just when it looked like they might have needed a cash injection to pay for the guns that Israel was saying for years of Fatah rule that they could not have?
    Maybe the $100mil would have been to buy guns and death for Hamas?

    But wait it turns out that even the PLO are not THAT dumb and struck a deal with HAMAS in mecca instead.

    Now Israel wont deal with a united Fatah(PLO)-Hamas national unity government.

    The same thing would happen in Iraq, which is why US efforts are focused on splitting the Shia political bloc. Thus we had SAS in Al Basrah blowing up Shias trying to make one side pissed at the other.

    It classic counter insurgency.

    Only in NI half the IRA it seems were already in the pay of the Brits so counter insurgency was very tame compared to Iraq.
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    Thats why two SAS guys were caught out of uniform (dressed up as Arabs), with bombs ready for planting.
    Thats interesting (genuinely and without sarcasm).

    Have you any news link or article about this.

    As for the topic at hand, I agree with Abaddon's observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry
    Thats why two SAS guys were caught out of uniform (dressed up as Arabs), with bombs ready for planting.
    Thats interesting (genuinely and without sarcasm).

    Have you any news link or article about this.

    As for the topic at hand, I agree with Abaddon's observation.
    Here is a link to the Story.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1573933,00.html

    Here is a photo of a tank the Iraqis attacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry
    Thats why two SAS guys were caught out of uniform (dressed up as Arabs), with bombs ready for planting.
    Thats interesting (genuinely and without sarcasm).

    Have you any news link or article about this.

    As for the topic at hand, I agree with Abaddon's observation.
    Here is a link to the Story.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1573933,00.html

    Here is a photo of a tank the Iraqis attacked.
    Just in the interests of accuracy:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian
    The soldiers, who were said to have been wearing Arab headdress, were accused of firing at Iraqi police when stopped at a road block.

    In another incident an angry crowd attacked a Warrior armoured personnel carrier with petrol bombs. A British soldier was forced to flee from his burning vehicle.
    I can see the bit where it says they fired at Iraqi police - but I don't actually see anything about them having bombs on them. Are you sure that's not part of the other incident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry
    Thats why two SAS guys were caught out of uniform (dressed up as Arabs), with bombs ready for planting.
    Thats interesting (genuinely and without sarcasm).

    Have you any news link or article about this.

    As for the topic at hand, I agree with Abaddon's observation.
    Here is a link to the Story.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1573933,00.html

    Here is a photo of a tank the Iraqis attacked.
    Get rid of that photo you sick individual. Posting an image of someone burning to death is a vile and morally bankrupt thing to do... for any purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jady88
    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry
    Thats why two SAS guys were caught out of uniform (dressed up as Arabs), with bombs ready for planting.
    Thats interesting (genuinely and without sarcasm).

    Have you any news link or article about this.

    As for the topic at hand, I agree with Abaddon's observation.
    Here is a link to the Story.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1573933,00.html

    Here is a photo of a tank the Iraqis attacked.
    Get rid of that photo you sick individual. Posting an image of someone burning to death is a vile and morally bankrupt thing to do... for any purpose.
    If you took the time to read the guardian article you would know then that nobody burned to death.

    Your concern for my health is appreciated but I can assure you that I am not a "sick individual".

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