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    How do you know ?
    Infantile nature of your retort - a giveaway.



    I would be willing to bet that my experience of and attitude to multiculturaism is far more open and diverse than yours,
    You've done little to prove that thus far, when you begin let me know.


    To advocate "retaking" or "reclaiming" something based on simple relgiion has nothing to do with multiculturasim and everything to do with generating the platform of hate which you speak of.
    I don't recall basing it on that, I'm not Jewish you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiphon View Post
    Islam is part of the political fabric of Ireland and deserves a place in all such discussions.
    On a point of fact, this is pure nonsense.
    There's not a single muslim TD or senator. I don't know of any muslim councillors even.
    They couldn't be less part of the political fabric.
    And at less than 1% of the population at the last census, they barely register on the radar. So no, they don't deserve a place in all discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiphon View Post


    I don't recall basing it on that, I'm not Jewish you know.

    Perhaps you need reminding of your Own OP
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    Anyone know if there's any truth to this? Great news if it is the case.

    I assume you read the article in question which was the basis of your post.

    On one hand you speak of multiculturism, while in the same breadth claiming great news the "reclamation of homeland" based on religion alone!!

    If the above is not obvious enough, your rep is.

    Your a troll, nothing more
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    On a point of fact, this is pure nonsense.
    There's not a single muslim TD or senator. I don't know of any muslim councillors even.
    They couldn't be less part of the political fabric.
    And at less than 1% of the population at the last census, they barely register on the radar. So no, they don't deserve a place in all discussions.
    The absence of the above simply highlights the need for Ireland to change and accept its new minorities with open arms. That process of inclusion begins with a willingness to accept and discuss minority viewpoints. Ireland excludes minorities from mainstream politics at its peril. Your dismissal is disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wexfordman View Post
    Perhaps you need reminding of your Own OP



    I assume you read the article in question which was the basis of your post.

    On one hand you speak of multiculturism, while in the same breadth claiming great news the "reclamation of homeland" based on religion alone!!

    If the above is not obvious enough, your rep is.

    Your a troll, nothing more
    You're not a rep goon are you - trust me Wexfordman - life will continue even if you get a negative rep Besides the vast majority of those are from racists and rednecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiphon View Post
    The absence of the above simply highlights the need for Ireland to change and accept its new minorities with open arms.
    Whats that got to do with religion ? Again, your OP is about reclaiming something based on religious grounds. Irish history is a prime example of how dangerous and disrupting this is, and anyone who advocates the same is a fool, and you ahve done that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiphon View Post
    That process of inclusion begins with a willingness to accept and discuss minority viewpoints. Ireland excludes minorities from mainstream politics at its peril. Your dismissal is disappointing.

    Keep religion out of politics!!
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    Al Andaluz, in which Muslims, Christians and Jews lived side by side for over 500 years.

    This Visigothic Christian music survived through being sung continuously from the 6th Century on




    Al Andaluz was a place and period known for a flowering of science, technology, agriculture and the arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiphon View Post
    The absence of the above simply highlights the need for Ireland to change and accept its new minorities with open arms. That process of inclusion begins with a willingness to accept and discuss minority viewpoints. Ireland excludes minorities from mainstream politics at its peril. Your dismissal is disappointing.
    Boo fucking hoo.
    If you want muslims in politics, get them to run for elected office.
    It's not the fault of others that they haven't got up off their collective arse and bothered to do so. It's theirs and theirs alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner View Post
    Boo fucking hoo.
    If you want muslims in politics, get them to run for elected office.
    It's not the fault of others that they haven't got up off their collective arse and bothered to do so. It's theirs and theirs alone.
    I agree - but your unwillingness to listen in the absence of elected officials is disturbing: after all who really listens to the government?

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    Guys theres no need to worry about MPAC...

    Can you not see where this is going... does the link about "Property for Sale" not give it away to you all?

    Its all about money making folks... If they need to upset people unnecessarily to make non muslims hostile towards muslims so that they can make a quick buck... well then so be it...

    Now tell me is that such a big mystery that you folks cant understand?

    You all know who runs MPAC in Ireland... Is there a need to say anything more?

    I mean for all the hate and bile they have for their fellow Muslims its amazing that they quote Hamza Tzortzis on their website!!! (I happened to click on what Antiphon posted here and to my amazement there is was!!!

    The Debate on God, Evolution & “Who Designed the Designer?”|MPAC.ie

    They obviously dont know who the guy is... they certainly overlooked Hamza's political leanings before posting it...

    So long as it can bring in some money... haha

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