FG:Will need an overall majority!

[Dillon Country]

I am out there as well and although people give out about us they don't like Kenny and don't know what labour stand for and are afraid of the Shinners, all in GE Terms.

I am in Dublin South Central.

I am in Cavan-Monaghan. Kenny isn't even being mentioned on the doors. It's the economy!

[The People's Party]

Labour should go to Sinn Fein rather than jumping into bed with Fine Gael at the next General's. At a local level co-operate between the parties has worked and has benefited the people that both represent.

[Factorem]

Labour should go to Sinn Fein rather than jumping into bed with Fine Gael at the next General's. At a local level co-operate between the parties has worked and has benefited the people that both represent.

God help us.

[Cyberspaced]

Labour should go to Sinn Fein rather than jumping into bed with Fine Gael at the next General's. At a local level co-operate between the parties has worked and has benefited the people that both represent.

Go to Sinn Féin and od what exactly. Go on the piss?

[meriwether2]

Fg at this stage have hoovered up the PD vote.
Labour are stripping the public sector vote.

At this stage, if you are pissed off with FF, you have a home. You can go FG, Lab or Green (as a few are doing).

Thats bloody bad for FF.

FG and Lab will do a deal no probs after the election.

[VoteFFno1]

Fg at this stage have hoovered up the PD vote.
Labour are stripping the public sector vote.

At this stage, if you are pissed off with FF, you have a home. You can go FG, Lab or Green (as a few are doing).

Thats bloody bad for FF.

FG and Lab will do a deal no probs after the election.

On the ground its not looking like that..people wont vote FF in the locals but come GE in three years they remain to be convinced by FG, Lab and SF.


FG and Lab is like Lager and Wine...they don't mix well.

[DeathKnell]

On the ground its not looking like that..people wont vote FF in the locals but come GE in three years they remain to be convinced by FG, Lab and SF.


FG and Lab is like Lager and Wine...they don't mix well.

I like the anology, you raised a pertinent point re FG and Lab, but its all moot because FF are gonna be hammered. If there is no GE by the end of the year, Ill give up the fags.

PS Green councillor out canvassing tonight told me there would be a GE by September. It was the only thing he said I didnt laugh at.

[An Gilladaker]

The good news is that Gorge and Che agree that an board gas should be privatize no policy difference their aint that gas their is your next government in the making a grand coalition of FG and FF

[AMCW177]

For decades we've been constantly told that "FF and FG are the same, Labour are the only real alternative"

But when you actually look at the policy positions and behaviour when in power, that just isn't true. It's FF and Labour that are the same - idiotic populism, short-termism, me feinism, beholden to vested interests (and in a few cases the same vested interests), jobs-for-the-boys, the purpose of the public sector is to provide jobs for our family and cronies...

The critical strategic mistake FG have always made is to try and play this same populist one-for-everyone-in-the-audience vote-buying game that Labour and FF are masters of. But their hearts aren't in it and so they come across as bumbling and unsure of themselves.

FG should just abandon their half-hearted attempts at populism and just go all out for the adult non-spoonfed vote and explicitly bracket FF and Labour as being more of the same jobs-for-the-boys culture that we just can't afford any more.

And they might well get an overall majority. The croneyist vested-interest vote is about 40% - let FF and Labour squabble over it while FG calmly collects the bulk of the 60% silent majority of hardworking citizens.

[polcol]

On the ground its not looking like that..people wont vote FF in the locals but come GE in three years they remain to be convinced by FG, Lab and SF.


FG and Lab is like Lager and Wine...they don't mix well.

You obviously believe your own **************************************** at this stage. The votes are going everywhere except FF. FF squandered the trust placed in them in 2007, and as the Lab party found out in 1997 that is very hard to regain.