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    FG Policy Fact Sheet

    While trying to answer that perennial question:

    What are FG's policies?

    I found this

    Its an interesting enough document, but its all very voter friendly and tends to skim over the big issues. For instance the Health section only deals with Primary care and doesn't attempt to deal with the issue of Acute Bed Capacity v. Efficient use of existing capacity. There isn't anything in it about Rip Off Ireland either, other than in the context of the creation of lots of "super" bodies to protect consumers. In fact, the creation of bodies seems to be something of a theme in this document.

    Other notable omissions are:

    Education (other than School Reports)
    Environment
    Transport
    Waste / Incineration
    Nuclear Option
    Economics (other than FF/PD waste)
    Social Welfare
    Northern Ireland
    US Troops in Shannon
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    Transport is cealt with to be fair, well Dublin bus anyway, its a fact sheet not a manifesto, I'm sure alot more will come out of the Ard Fheis this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashey
    Transport is cealt with to be fair, well Dublin bus anyway, its a fact sheet not a manifesto, I'm sure alot more will come out of the Ard Fheis this weekend!
    Do you know, if I were a Blueshirt (perish the thought), from down the country, and read that, I'd smack you round the head at the upcoming Ard Fheis.

    We have transport needs in the sticks too you know ?
    1,197 people agree with me.. how many agree with you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashey
    Transport is cealt with to be fair, well Dublin bus anyway, its a fact sheet not a manifesto, I'm sure alot more will come out of the Ard Fheis this weekend!

    True. You do have to start producing some meat though. When people really get their heads into the election they will see FF/PD waste etc. but they will also read your policy stuff and realise it's completely vaccuous leading to the gvt limping in after a very low turnout election
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel
    Quote Originally Posted by Smashey
    Transport is cealt with to be fair, well Dublin bus anyway, its a fact sheet not a manifesto, I'm sure alot more will come out of the Ard Fheis this weekend!
    Do you know, if I were a Blueshirt (perish the thought), from down the country, and read that, I'd smack you round the head at the upcoming Ard Fheis.

    We have transport needs in the sticks too you know ?
    Meh rock I get that all the time, I was just following on with sean1's line of analysis, I know the full national transport plan isn't there but there are some excellent suggestions for Dublin Bus

    Maximus you're a tool, policy papers and positions have been issued in all those areas listed below many with costings
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    Quote Originally Posted by campbeca

    True. You do have to start producing some meat though.

    Privatisation of Aer Lingus.

    Deregulation of 25% of the Dublin bus market.

    Metro to Dublin Airport by 2007.

    Independent competing terminals at Dublin Airport by 2007.



    Now, let me get this straight - WE have to start producing some meat???? Your level of delusion about what the electorate think of your performance in government is simply mind-boggling.


    [quote:10fekdsb]leading to the gvt limping in after a very low turnout election
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    Funny, that - coz huge voter dissatisfaction with the government produced a far HIGHER turnout than expected in 2004. I remember talking to a local FFer late in the evening on polling day - and when he heard the turnout figures he just said "we're f*cked, so". Don't get it into your head that ye guys will escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster

    Privatisation of Aer Lingus.

    Deregulation of 25% of the Dublin bus market.

    Metro to Dublin Airport by 2007.

    Independent competing terminals at Dublin Airport by 2007.

    And this differs from current Government policy in what way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster

    Privatisation of Aer Lingus.

    Deregulation of 25% of the Dublin bus market.

    Metro to Dublin Airport by 2007.

    Independent competing terminals at Dublin Airport by 2007.

    And this differs from current Government policy in what way?

    I think you're missing my point. The fact is that all these are commitments which were made either in the 2002 election manifestos of FF and the PDs, or in the negotiated programme for Government. In terms of actual delivery, the privatisation of Aer Lingus still hasn't happened, which has not only reduced the value of the airline as international conditions worsen, but also hugely delayed the expansion plans that are essential to their survival. Instead of the deregulation of 25% of the Dublin bus market, all we have is a proposal (which still hasn't got anywhere) to deregulate 15%. As for the Airport Metro by 2007 - well, there hasn't even been a planning application lodged yet. And the independent competing terminals plan has been shelved.

    My point is that given such an abysmal record of delivery, its a bit rich for the PDs to say that FG need to "start producing some meat"
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    nice art work by maximus ..... pitty thats all it is art work

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