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    Quote Originally Posted by eurocitizan View Post
    And I thought you were well connected . well it shows what I said about you is all true .
    Nothing constructive to say , abuser of posters, and absolutly no political credibility .
    I'll ask you again. Show me the polls that are showing FF support rising, and FG support falling.
    "Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)

    The majority cannot therefore be the elite.

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    How anybody thinks that anything other than the extermination of FF can be the first step on the road to economic recovery is a mystery to me.

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    FG need to be clear about what they are saying - only last week kenny was saying no to assisting the govt. The reality is that there are limited options available to whoever is in Govt and if the decisions taken make sense then FG needs to support them but not in the same á la carte manner as with the tallaght strategy. FG also need to step up to the plate and make constructive suggestions which in turn should be adopted by the govt but acknolwedged as being FG's

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    Quote Originally Posted by badboy2 View Post
    How anybody thinks that anything other than the extermination of FF can be the first step on the road to economic recovery is a mystery to me.
    Why don't FG and FF combine...take a leaf out of Obama's book and bring differing cultures together....Oh wait, Michael Lowry....old FG.....Ray Burke...old FF. Ah grand so you are both as corrupt and inept as each other...

    Recession now with FF or FG ...Great...Lets get it over with combine them and just have to deal with one shower of gombeens

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    Quote Originally Posted by coisceim1 View Post
    FG need to be clear about what they are saying - only last week kenny was saying no to assisting the govt. The reality is that there are limited options available to whoever is in Govt and if the decisions taken make sense then FG needs to support them but not in the same á la carte manner as with the tallaght strategy. FG also need to step up to the plate and make constructive suggestions which in turn should be adopted by the govt but acknolwedged as being FG's
    Remember while Cowen and his cronies were still in denial FG set out a number of viable options and have been doing so consistently since. Now given that its obvious to all that this Government are completely clueless when it comes to dealing with correcting our public finances, and are clearly making it up as they go along, you would think they would have had the courage to acknowledge and take on board some of the FG proposals. But no instead we had the likes of that idiot Willie O’Dea, on behalf of the Government ridicule FG proposals while at the same time Cowen and Lenihan were attempting to introduce many of them as their own.

    The fact is that in good time or bad whether in Government or opposition FF are incapable of putting the country before the party, but I would have no doubt what so ever that if, in the unlikely event the decisions coming from Government (any day now) make sense for the country, FG will, as they have many times in the past support them in the national interest. What Kenny actually said was in response to the suggestion of a National Government and he was merely highlighting the fact that FG were not prepared to give thisGovernment carte blance. When you consider their performance so far, rightly so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teachertime View Post
    Why don't FG and FF combine...take a leaf out of Obama's book and bring differing cultures together....Oh wait, Michael Lowry....old FG.....Ray Burke...old FF. Ah grand so you are both as corrupt and inept as each other...

    Recession now with FF or FG ...Great...Lets get it over with combine them and just have to deal with one shower of gombeens

    While FF have a string of corrupt ministers and Taoisaigh , they all remain members of FF.
    In contrast , at the first hint of corruption in FG Michael Lowry was excused membership of the party.

    So the old FF adage that aren't we all as bad as each other dosen't stand up to scrutiny.

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    The arrogance and contempt shown by Cowen, Dempsey and Martin for Parliamentary Democracy and the elected representatives of all parties, during this week, underlines why FG may offer to help the government and why it would never work. Cowen snarls at Kenny because his people can't deal with the situation and he's not wired to listen to the suggestions for economic recovery that FG are making. If any other party was making them, then he'd possibly consider them but all FF ever do, is deride any of FG's policies and then bring canabalise them themselves futher down the road. FF must be gotten rid of, if this country is to stand any chance of recovery.

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    When you consider only this week Cowen made it very clear he intends to ‘do it his way’ while at the same time his cronies accuse FG of national sabotage, I suspect they will not be taking the FG suggestion of all party input on board.

    The hypocrisy of this Government is absolutely astounding and they are prepared to stoop to any level to deflect the blame for their own incompetence.

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    Will FG have the nerve to criticise the consensus which will be presented when the cronies have finished their partnership talks? The price for consensus is the destruction of private sector jobs and in 6 months time the cupboard will be bare again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KATHY View Post
    Remember while Cowen and his cronies were still in denial FG set out a number of viable options and have been doing so consistently since. Now given that its obvious to all that this Government are completely clueless when it comes to dealing with correcting our public finances, and are clearly making it up as they go along, you would think they would have had the courage to acknowledge and take on board some of the FG proposals. But no instead we had the likes of that idiot Willie O’Dea, on behalf of the Government ridicule FG proposals while at the same time Cowen and Lenihan were attempting to introduce many of them as their own.
    *****
    The fact is that in good time or bad whether in Government or opposition FF are incapable of putting the country before the party, but I would have no doubt what so ever that if, in the unlikely event the decisions coming from Government (any day now) make sense for the country, FG will, as they have many times in the past support them in the national interest. What Kenny actually said was in response to the suggestion of a National Government and he was merely highlighting the fact that FG were not prepared to give thisGovernment carte blance. When you consider their performance so far, rightly so.
    FF are incapable of putting the country before the party

    As in the Lisbon referendum when Cowan (and roadkill wearer Donie Cassidy), in his first speech, attacked FG for its efforts. *****They were all supposed to be on the same side but Biffo could not - and cannot - run on a common platform.*****

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