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Thread: Enda Kenny, Irish Banks, and "Vultures": Is he right?

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    Enda Kenny, Irish Banks, and "Vultures": Is he right?

    Enda has said that the Government should not allow Irish banks to be sold to
    vultures circling around to see if they can make a quick buck out of Ireland's difficulties'.
    He also stated that any deal should serve the long term interest of the country, and not
    ' the narrow self-interest of bad banks, private venture capitalists and delinquent developers'.
    Thats seems like pretty strong, and stirring stuff. Is he stepping up to the plate (to borrow an americanism)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yehbut_nobut View Post
    Enda has said that the Government should not allow Irish banks to be sold to

    He also stated that any deal should serve the long term interest of the country, and not

    Thats seems like pretty strong, and stirring stuff. Is he stepping up to the plate (to borrow an americanism)?
    I was there for his speech...he got a prolonged standing ovation (although considering the crowd, it's hardly a surprise).

    His speech was very good. His voice was even raised, booming in fact -and it even seemed quite credible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yehbut_nobut View Post
    Enda has said that the Government should not allow Irish banks to be sold to vultures...
    Since when is it up to the Government who private individuals sell their shares to?

    But then again, this is FG, so facts and reality and optional.
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Since when is it up to the Government who private individuals sell their shares to?

    But then again, this is FG, so facts and reality and optional.
    It seems a no brainer - I know I'd prefer if the government had preference shares rather than venture capitalists

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    Is he stepping up to what plate ?

    It's not going to be his decision which or whether ?

    What's happening with the banks and the banking crisis is sickening... from a political point of view. What you have are political parties who've spent years talking about the Free Market and how it cures all ills.. and then when the free market screws up.. as every other capitalist system has.. they now want a get out of jail free card.. at the taxpayers expense

    Yet Enda Kenny, nor FF in fairness either, will face up to what is needed.. i.e. nationalise one of the banks to ensure a continuation of the banking system, and leave the rest of them sink or swim in the marketplace

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Since when is it up to the Government who private individuals sell their shares to?

    But then again, this is FG, so facts and reality and optional.
    Knowing FG they probably want to offer the shares off.. with a promise to re-imburse the buyers in case they lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Since when is it up to the Government who private individuals sell their shares to?

    But then again, this is FG, so facts and reality and optional.

    Since they agreed to guarantee the banks maybe?

    He did warn of the nightmare scenario of an Eircom-style firesale. you know, the one that left us with p!$$poor broadband, because the asset strippers won't invest in the network. Wouldn't it great for both business and ordinary folk if the countries banks were run like that?
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    Well, the people who are interested are the Carlyle Group.

    In a statement, Bank of Ireland said it has received "unsolicited approaches from a number of parties wishing to make an investment in the group. No decision on these approaches has been made. Bank of Ireland will keep its stockholders informed as appropriate."
    B of I confirms 'unsolicited approaches' from investors - The Irish Times - Fri, Nov 21, 2008

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...7137526179.htm

    However, we also have this:

    This lunchtime, Irish Life & Permanent said it had been in discussions with the EBS Building Society about how the two institutions might work together 'in the current market environment'.
    http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/1121/saving.html

    So, what that suggests to me is that we have a choice of loading BOI with massive financial burden or allowing Americans to take over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    Knowing FG they probably want to offer the shares off.. with a promise to re-imburse the buyers in case they lose
    If you think that, you haven't been paying attention for the last 6 years, Richard Bruton is the best spokesperson on finance and should be our minister for finance.

    Just separate to this, who would people rather finance spokesperson:

    Richard Bruton Vs Brian Lenihan

    Health Spokesperon

    Dr. James Reilly Vs Mary Harney

    Enterprise, Trade and Employment Spokesperson

    Leo Varadkar Vs Mary Coughlan

    Education Spokesperson

    Brian Hayes Vs Batt O Keefe

    Taking those 4 examples, and taking the leaders of both parties who would you want to be Taoiseach

    Enda Kenny Vs Brian Cowen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Since when is it up to the Government who private individuals sell their shares to?

    But then again, this is FG, so facts and reality and optional.
    Nobody will buy the fecking shares unless the Govt==(you and the rest of us)
    guarantee the sale so yes it *is* up to the Govt. and well said Enda Kenny.

    He may be a lightweight but at least he is not a FF g0bs41t..

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