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About LinkBacksI answered, FG is bad at marketing. Their election strategy relies too much on people reading about Irish history and different parties policies.Originally Posted by Darren Mac an Phríora
I answered, FG is bad at marketing. Their election strategy relies too much on people reading about Irish history and different parties policies.
True!!! Most people don't read different parties policies and a lot of people just think that FG are just FF-lite.
What have FF done for Irish or re-unifying with the North? Lots of hot air, really.
Enda speaks fluent Irish as far as Nationalist goes; we are the party of Michael Collins if de Valera had his way we'd still be in the same situation as Scotland now. Of course, leave it to muppets like yourself to pick nationalism and Irish as important topics when we have live register figures going up by thousands everyday. Do yourself a favor and wake up.
Grow up you di**head!!! I never said that I see FG as anti-Nationalist or anti-Gaeilge. I said that a significant number of people do. Some of these are, yes, just muppets. But a lot of them are genuine nationalists/lovers of the language.
It's back to marketing I suppose. FF helped bring in (and yes FG supported it) the GFA. FG brought in the AIA (which FF didn't support initially) but how many people give them credit for it? FG core supporters. That's all and FG will need to have a lot bigger base if they are going to become the largest party in the state.
OK the language. I know that some people are going to use this issue to criticise the Govt. over priorities (and I agree in principle) but despite the recession TG4 got an increase in funding of 6% in the recent budget. Most gaeilgeoirí know what priorities are all about but, yes, most of them welcome (those of them that know about it) this development- on top of the increase in funding of 5% the station got last year.
FG believe that the money spent on Irish should be audited and that it should be optional for the L. Cert. I agree. I don't see anyone in FG marketing this though.
Last edited by Darren Mac an Phríora; 3rd November 2008 at 05:18 PM.
Explain to me how that would have been so much worse? In fact becuse of people like Collins and Griffith and other right wing nationalists, Ireland was economically a lot worse off as a free state with partition enforced upon it than if it had remained as part of Britain. When did we get free secondary education as opposed to Britain for example? What about our health service? What about the parasitic landlords leeching off this country? What about the tenaments in the cities? The huge emigration? The blueshirts did nothing to tackle social reform. That bloody treaty guaranteed the poverty of the Irish nation for decades.
All very interesting questions no doubt. Why dont you start a thread in the History forum to discuss them? You know, instead of hikjacking this thread which is about what Enda Kenny might be doing in 2009.
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At least the main parties in Ireland are patriotic unlike the Trots.
Yes of course they are, in fact they hide behind patriotism when the times get tough. Just like FF have told us about "our patriotic duty" regarding the budget. And if you knew anything the socialist party you would see that their position is in favour of a 32 county socialist Ireland. The socialist party is a 32 county party with branches both sides of the border. Contrast that with FG who have nothing but contempt for the north and do their best to ignore as they have always done throughout history. They don't even attempt to establish in the 6 counties.
FG would be all-island if they thought they would do well in elections in the North.
It's one of those things you have to experience to know but I know from experience that the 'leadership' of the Trots with one or two exceptions (Higgins being the most obvious) have no culture or pride to be Irish. Their leadership is a refuge as I have said before for people with disturbed personalities and minds. They idolise Leon Trotsky for crying out loud!!! All you have to do is look at Mick Murphy, Ruth Coppinger and Clare Daly to know that the average leader of the Trots (not including their youth section) is the pits as I described.
Last edited by Darren Mac an Phríora; 3rd November 2008 at 05:49 PM.
I'll ignore your uneducated ramblings. But you are correct in saying the nationalist community up north despise FG. Perhaps it's because FG aren't "patriotic" enough.
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