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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudite Caveman View Post
    Bonkers, there isn't a single accurate statement or substatement in that post.

    Debt is dropping (and you'd be the very one to complain if greater cuts mere made to close the spending deficit), the HSE is a problem beyond the power of any politician, let alone one that was last a Minster for Health in the last century, and the housing crisis is down to the cessation of building new houses, not 'vulture funds' or REITS - their no 1 incentive is to have their properties occupied by tenants.

    Your hatred for Noonan is real but says more about you than him.
    Your defence of that creature says more about you than you can even imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    So that's the bull dealt with. Now give me some numbers.
    Let's start with the €200m in one deal - Project Eagle. One deal that sold at 20% below the already distressed costs because of the connections and sleaze that has typified Noonan's approach to selling off the state's assets.

    That's one deal out of hundreds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blokesbloke View Post
    Time to bring back my Joanie!
    Unfortunately she's stuck in traffic in tallaght
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    So that's the bull dealt with. Now give me some numbers.
    Your "so what" comment tells its own story, of course.

    The public mission statement for NAMA was to make sure the culprits weren't able to buy back their own properties at knock down prices - it took someone with Noonan's brilliance to figure out a way for them to do just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    And mass emigration.
    So how do you explain population going up?

    There are also statistics for numbers in work. Would you like to have a browse?

    http://www.cso.ie/indicators/default.aspx?id=1QNQ03

    1.84m when Noonan took office
    2.04m in Q3 2016 (and certainly increased since)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarshBuzz View Post
    So how do you explain population going up?

    There are also statistics for numbers in work. Would you like to have a browse?

    http://www.cso.ie/indicators/default.aspx?id=1QNQ03

    1.84m when Noonan took office
    2.04m in Q3 2016 (and certainly increased since)
    go to spec savers , nah even then you would still not be able to see . Blue paint in your eyes is irreversible , like stupidity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Indeed most of Noonan's actions have led to the only ONE measure of success our politicians seem to understand getting back on track - over priced property and houses.

    Ironically over-supply largely caused the property bust, but we managed in a few short years to turn oversupply into a shortage, all at a time when we were paying 100k brickies and sparks the dole and NAMA was sitting on the largest portfolio of property in the world.

    NAMA ensured only REITS and vulture funds benefited from the low cost and now, 6 short years later prices are miraculously restored and rent is at an all time high and being controlled by a handful of "lucky" REITs who were in at the "right time".

    If your Noonan that's success. If you're 99.9% of the population it's not.
    You have completely lost all powers of analysis. I blame Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dundealing View Post
    go to spec savers , nah even then you would still not be able to see . Blue paint in your eyes is irreversible , like stupidity
    So....you don't agree that unemployment has halved? Or that more than 200,000 extra people are at work?

    It must be so tiresome, all these facts that fail to meet your shouty little echo chamber 'opinions'.

    As the great man once said: when the facts change, I change my opinions. What do you do sir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarshBuzz View Post
    So....you don't agree that unemployment has halved? Or that more than 200,000 extra people are at work?

    It must be so tiresome, all these facts that fail to meet your shouty little echo chamber 'opinions'.

    As the great man once said: when the facts change, I change my opinions. What do you do sir?
    Yes , a lot more working partime /slavebridge / min wage , and most of them from Eastern Europe . But anyway lets , "keep the recovery going "
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarshBuzz View Post
    You have completely lost all powers of analysis. I blame Trump.
    I think it's been this kind of blind arrogance has led to FG's downfall, from near overall majority to FF's plaything.

    Noonan above all typifies FG's real agenda, and he really doesn't like being questioned.

    Anyway, luckily for 99.9% of us his days are well and truly numbered, we can just hope he hasn't completely raided my pension and sold my home to a vulture fund in his last days in government.
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