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    Fine Gael tell us they want reduction in debt in exchange for referendum

    Hayes calls for debt deal if referendum needed - RT News

    So is this what Fine Gael were talking about when they said they were negotiating our troika deal

    I must have missed this in the election literature where they said a reduction in debt would be a trade off for a referendum

    The reason we have such high debt and those promissory notes is because of financial industry and the ECB

    The ECB didnt want any bank failing so we werent allowed let Anglo fail

    Fine Gael claim they have already received reduction in the interest rate - They dont tell us this was all down to the Greeks

    So now we are going to be spun that they received a reduction in debt for a referendum

    What the ************************ is going on and when will we get some truth from Fine Gael and the media

    We should be getting a reduction not in exchange for passing a referendum but in exchange for doing what the ECB forced us to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by poolfan81 View Post
    Hayes calls for debt deal if referendum needed - RT News

    So is this what Fine Gael were talking about when they said they were negotiating our troika deal

    I must have missed this in the election literature where they said a reduction in debt would be a trade off for a referendum

    The reason we have such high debt and those promissory notes is because of financial industry and the ECB

    The ECB didnt want any bank failing so we werent allowed let Anglo fail

    Fine Gael claim they have already received reduction in the interest rate - They dont tell us this was all down to the Greeks

    So now we are going to be spun that they received a reduction in debt for a referendum

    What the ************************ is going on and when will we get some truth from Fine Gael and the media
    F*** them.

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    The EU has needed massive reform and real engagement with EU citizens for decades now - which they've utterly failed to do.

    So giving these aloof, unaccountable and remote cretins any more power and influence would be madness.

    Obviously there are many who can be bought.

    The past success of the eFFing traitors proves that.

    So it'll probably be a close call... and I suspect the grubby money grabbers will win out in the end - and then bitch and moan about all the long term consequences of it all after the money has all gone.
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    I think of the EU as the boy who cried wolf and I certainly ain't listening to them anymore.

    They've blown it and they only have themselves to blame.

    Simple as.
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    I'm pretty sympathetic to the posters above: But yet, any evidence of ball-growing by Irish ministers must be good thing. Right?

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    Next week the climbdown...'we never really meant it honest Heir IMF' so well say Noonon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmundburke View Post
    I'm pretty sympathetic to the posters above: But yet, any evidence of ball-growing by Irish ministers must be good thing. Right?
    what ball growing would that be?

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    So is this what Fine Gael were talking about when they said they were negotiating our troika deal

    I must have missed this in the election literature where they said a reduction in debt would be a trade off for a referendum

    The reason we have such high debt and those promissory notes is because of financial industry and the ECB

    The ECB didnt want any bank failing so we werent allowed let Anglo fail

    Fine Gael claim they have already received reduction in the interest rate - They dont tell us this was all down to the Greeks

    So now we are going to be spun that they received a reduction in debt for a referendum

    What the ************************ is going on and when will we get some truth from Fine Gael and the media

    We should be getting a reduction not in exchange for passing a referendum but in exchange for doing what the ECB forced us to do[/QUOTE]


    So basicaly they want to sell the state for private criminal losses in Anglo and others, what a bunch of traitors.Is this what the founders of the state fought for. jes why did they bother

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolfan81 View Post
    Hayes calls for debt deal if referendum needed - RT News

    So is this what Fine Gael were talking about when they said they were negotiating our troika deal

    I must have missed this in the election literature where they said a reduction in debt would be a trade off for a referendum

    The reason we have such high debt and those promissory notes is because of financial industry and the ECB

    The ECB didnt want any bank failing so we werent allowed let Anglo fail

    Fine Gael claim they have already received reduction in the interest rate - They dont tell us this was all down to the Greeks

    So now we are going to be spun that they received a reduction in debt for a referendum

    What the ************************ is going on and when will we get some truth from Fine Gael and the media

    We should be getting a reduction not in exchange for passing a referendum but in exchange for doing what the ECB forced us to do
    Er, there wasn't a referendum in prospect when the election happened.
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    As it stands the debt is not going anywhere soon.

    The possible need for a referendum in Ireland on any new treaty or agreement to save the euro - it is by now means certain a referendum will be required - offers a degree of leverage that the govt would be insane not to use to get what it wants.

    It's called realpolitick.

    Or would people prefer the govt doesn't use it to extract a better deal for Ireland within the euro?

    Of course, the ECB and the other EU states are perfectly wiyjin their rights to say 'Fvck off, Paddy - you're either in or out, you chose which and get back to us'.

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