Heros to Zeros : What can the Government do to get back on track ?

[CarnivalOfAction]

The Euro crisis has been handled abysmally by Merkel, Sarko and the ECB. They are bunglers and cowards.

Prefect summation of FG/FF/LP. Compare & contrast with Iceland.

Hopefully the long-suFFering ppl will see through them:

[an innocent abroad]

To all who believed they were voting for change? (" You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time") Except the private irish sector that is!

[Berty]

The problem is that both coalition parties have lied to the public. Both parties have given lame excuses for these lies. As a result of this the people do not trust them and many do not believe them. While there is no trust in our leadership there will be no confidence. This Goverement in my opinion has got off to a poor start. They are not bringing the population with them, a lot of this is due to kite flying and badly judged cuts. There is a lot of upset after budget 2011. In my opinion they will not survive budgets 2011 --2014. The austerity has only begun.

Your last sentence right on, but I would add that we've seen nothing yet!

[CarnivalOfAction]

Would you ever go ************************ yourself with the chip on your shoulder you moany old geebag

What an intelligent, considered, articulate response. Your overpaid, over-rated obnoxious oafs won't have to live with the effects of the cuts.

[partnership]

Leadership is required. While I am of the view we should burn the bondholders and tell the EU where to get off I do understand that it is a hard step to take and do not believe there is any party who would actually go that far including the very quiet Sinn Fein, Socialist Party and others.
However there needs to be leadership. What this means to me is that they are not seen to be paying over the rate they have agreed to anyone even if it was Bill Gates himself, that they immediately get rid of all their allowances and survive on their wages, the mileage and subsistence allowance could be given up on a temporary basis to be reviewed as obviously people from the country have higher expenses. All TDs to be required to attend when the dail sits and their pay is cut if they are not their only exceptions if there are EU meetings that they have to attend. They are told that they are not allowed attend local funerals or other stuff or their pay is docked, they provide sick certs and have same sick scheme as everyone else in public service, they get the same pension scheme ie if they are a td for 5 years that is banked until they are 60, if they were a teacher of public servant before they would be combined, no two pensions, only get when 6, no separate ministers pension etc. People under 60 getting pensions have them taken back if they are working. Basically get the trust of the people back, if we are int he dire straights they say we are they would be doing this without being told to do so. Once you hve done that call in the high earning semi state people and public servants and deal with them.

[CarnivalOfAction]

Leadership is required. While I am of the view we should burn the bondholders and tell the EU where to get off I do understand that it is a hard step to take and do not believe there is any party who would actually go that far including the very quiet Sinn Fein, Socialist Party and others.
However there needs to be leadership. What this means to me is that they are not seen to be paying over the rate they have agreed to anyone even if it was Bill Gates himself, that they immediately get rid of all their allowances and survive on their wages, the mileage and subsistence allowance could be given up on a temporary basis to be reviewed as obviously people from the country have higher expenses. All TDs to be required to attend when the dail sits and their pay is cut if they are not their only exceptions if there are EU meetings that they have to attend. They are told that they are not allowed attend local funerals or other stuff or their pay is docked, they provide sick certs and have same sick scheme as everyone else in public service, they get the same pension scheme ie if they are a td for 5 years that is banked until they are 60, if they were a teacher of public servant before they would be combined, no two pensions, only get when 6, no separate ministers pension etc. People under 60 getting pensions have them taken back if they are working. Basically get the trust of the people back, if we are int he dire straights they say we are they would be doing this without being told to do so. Once you hve done that call in the high earning semi state people and public servants and deal with them.

You seriously think there's a chance of FG/FF/LP doing that? After wasting valuable political capital to get overpaid jobs for their cronies here & in the EU?

[hiding behind a poster]

Yes we elected the government we wanted, but that government then did an about turn in what it had promised to do, that is the problem.

No they didn't, they're broadly doing what they said they'd do.

[Mrs. Crotta Cliach]

FG have dropped a little, while Labour have dropped even more, but

• we continue to pay money back to unsecured bondholders
• this is only the first crap budget of five
• we will either be denied the right to vote in a referendum, or they will use the usual scaremongering to get us to vote yes
• how many more unjust cuts are they going to come out with

It's going to be a drip-drip process over the next few years, and that is utter stupidity. People are willing to take the pain if it's fair, but not when they see some of the stupidity that the Government has come out with over the last 6 months especially.

I am willing to take the pain, but not the unfairness of some of the new taxes, and I am angry that Kenny is submitting requests for 1,000 a month with no documentation and pushing through huge raises for his buddies. he had such a wonderful chance to do it right and has totally screwed up.

[CarnivalOfAction]

No they didn't, they're broadly doing what they said they'd do.

Cept for paying red cents to FFailed Greedy banksters.