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    The employer must be availing of it's own 'code of conduct for employee's' to discipline him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gijoe View Post
    I do not think that impacts on his judgement on the size of steel bars to go into foundations! Now if he were the CEO of the company then it could be argued that it would impact on the company's image but otherwise I am not getting this. If Cllr Scully were a civil servant he could not have been suspended never mind sacked!
    As a public sector worker, I would certainly be suspended if I made a comment such as he did. However, having an attitude such as he expressed would certainly impact on the way I do my job.

    Having an attitude such as he expressed may not impact his judgement on the size of steel bars to be used, but it may indeed impact on how he treats his fellow workers and others with whom he comes into contact through his work, and thus may ultimately affect the way he does his work.

    All that being said, I don't think he should lose his job for what he said.
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    I wonder if its possible to have a rational conversation about any ethnic group. Can you say " The majority of Irish people/polish people/whoever I know are piss heads" without it being seen as racist? Could he have got away with " Africans are in general more aggressive than my Irish Constituents" . He obviously had problems with this group=what way could he have phrased it or is it that we go about not stating what we feel is the the obvious for fear of causing offence?? I dont have any problems that would drive me to critique a whole ethnic group but if I did-should I just keep quiet? Even If I felt there was a noticeable pattern backed up perhaps by facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Area View Post
    The employer must be availing of it's own 'code of conduct for employee's' to discipline him.
    I wonder will the Equality Authority take up the case.

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    It is not harsh.

    Same thing would happen in my work and rightfully so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simeongrimes View Post
    I wonder will the Equality Authority take up the case.
    Breaches of employer codes of conduct for employee's are established as reasonable justification for dismissal.
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    Disgusting behavior from the employer. The man is a twat but as a public representative he has a duty to say what is on his mind.

    I wonder if you worked in a bank and said that bondholders should be burned, would it be okay for you to lose your job or is it only okay when it suits.

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    [QUOTE=Boggle;4670388]Disgusting behavior from the employer. The man is a twat but as a public representative he has a duty to say what is on his mind.
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    No, he doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai123 View Post
    It is not harsh.

    Same thing would happen in my work and rightfully so.
    But if an employer has the right to take action over a person's views then nobody is safe in expressing a political opinion. If your p.ie username became known to your boss they could decide you were too left-wing for their tastes. Like others have said FG need to expel him but employers should have no role in any of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uriah View Post
    What about publicly expressed racist opinions?
    Quote Originally Posted by hedzog View Post
    The employer is looking at the negative impact on his company of employing a racist , hopefully fine gael will do the same .
    Quote Originally Posted by Who knows? View Post
    A perfect example of why personal opinions should remain personal.
    WTF! He gave his view. This is a free country and odious though his opinions may be (I don't think he is a racist btw) he is entitled to them. It doen't take much for the mask to slip from the right-on types does it? Lets all tow the line to placate the biens pensants .

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLion View Post
    If he had given an immigrant a job over a white person, you would be baying for blood and F his wife and kids. Truth comes out differently from a mouth with bias.
    What are you on about? Don't make up stuff to cover your disgusting statements and gloating at another's misfortune. If he loses his job I hope he takes his employer to the cleaners.
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