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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    If you were to accept the basic premise of your post (which I don't), it might be because some posters here post such unmitigated shyte about FG. For example:



    You see? I mean, that's awful rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinemartin View Post
    I think all political party supporters can be hyper sensitive. I dont think FG are better or worse than any one else. I suppose that once you are in power all guns get aimed at you and you need a particularly hard neck not to feel victimised.

    I think FG are a bit sensitive on some issues, the north is one that seems to really get under their collar with many in FG having a pure hate of the sinn sinns. I think of people like the recently dead Garret, John laughing boy Bruton and the barely alive Hayes in relation to this SF hate.
    Maybe the FG supporters have confused power with greatness

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinemartin View Post
    I think all political party supporters can be hyper sensitive. I dont think FG are better or worse than any one else. I suppose that once you are in power all guns get aimed at you and you need a particularly hard neck not to feel victimised.

    I think FG are a bit sensitive on some issues, the north is one that seems to really get under their collar with many in FG having a pure hate of the sinn sinns. I think of people like the recently dead Garret, John laughing boy Bruton and the barely alive Hayes in relation to this SF hate.
    I am not a "hack" of either persuasion.

    But I guess when you love your party, give all your life and loyalty to it, work for its TDs and know them personally, it is hard not to get defensive if you see it being casually attacked or slagged off

    If there is a scintilla of truth in the accusation it only makes it worse.

    Gaining power, coming into the light, with your enemies' searchlights trained on you, waiting for you to fukk up---this breeds paranoia and a desire to circle the wagons

    FF are so used to getting slagged off that it runs off them like water off a duck's back. Success or failure, love or hatred--all the same to them. They've seen it all. They know it is power alone that counts

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual View Post
    To be fair I actually think that this latter point is changing in the wake of the peace process and the historic 2005 IRA statement.
    i think that there will always be a group in FG who are super anti SF and see them as devils. I think the likes of Brian Hayes will never change their minds on the sinn sinns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinemartin View Post
    I think FG are a bit sensitive on some issues, the north is one that seems to really get under their collar with many in FG having a pure hate of the sinn sinns. I think of people like the recently dead Garret, John laughing boy Bruton and the barely alive Hayes in relation to this SF hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinDocter View Post
    I notice that if you view Fine Gael, its leader or members in a negative light, the FG faithful here on Pie get very upset. They place their mighty leader on a pedestal, which is their right but when you challenge their views you are accused of being a FF supporter, some may become nasty, sensitive or upset. Is it from years of being rejected by the people...?
    I used to be one of those people so i know what you're getting at.

    I think it's because some FG supporters assume that their intentions are so manifestly good that they feel hard done by when they get the amount of slagging they tend to get. Of course, whether their intentions are good is a highy contentious political matter. Maybe people think FG's intentions as a party are not good.

    Many FGers often don't see this however. They have a genuine sincere well-meaning vision of how Ireland should be run. This is fine. But they are incapable of even understanding that that vision is not automatically the right vision, that there are alternative visions. It's a sort of affectionate but condescending arrogance driven by ignorance.

    This by no means applied to all in the party, just people like i was myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr. Hank Tree View Post
    I used to be one of those people so i know what you're getting at.

    I think it's because some FG supporters assume that their intentions are so manifestly good that they feel hard done by when they get the amount of slagging they tend to get. Of course, whether their intentions are good is a highy contentious political matter. Maybe people think FG's intentions as a party are not good.

    Many FGers often don't see this however. They have a genuine sincere well-meaning vision of how Ireland should be run. This is fine. But they are incapable of even understanding that that vision is not automatically the right vision, that there are alternative visions. It's a sort of affectionate but condescending arrogance.

    This by no means applied to all in the party, just people like i was myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinDocter View Post
    I notice that if you view Fine Gael, its leader or members in a negative light, the FG faithful here on Pie get very upset. They place their mighty leader on a pedestal, which is their right but when you challenge their views you are accused of being a FF supporter, some may become nasty, sensitive or upset. Is it from years of being rejected by the people...?
    Most of them on here are young, a bit innocent, some a bit thick and like all FG'ers, young or old, they have the shining light of righteousness in their eyes (can you imagine a YFG meeting, you'd have to be wearing the raybans just to enter the room.)

    They do appear to believe that they and they alone are the holders of all that is right and wholesome and any suggestion otherwise is likely to get the same reaction you'd get from the teacher’s pet who has just had a star taken away.

    In many ways they remind me of the young Tories of Maggie’s time, a fearsome lot and the kind of crowd that if they were there when you walked into your favourite pub, you'd walk straight out again.

    Other than that I wouldn't have a word said against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonic View Post
    Most of them on here are young, a bit innocent, some a bit thick and like all FG'ers, young or old, they have the shining light of righteousness in their eyes (can you imagine a YFG meeting, you'd have to be wearing the raybans just to enter the room.)
    They do appear to believe that they and they alone are the holders of all that is right and wholesome and any suggestion otherwise is likely to get the same reaction you'd get from the teacher’s pet who has just had a star taken away.
    In many ways they remind me of the young Tories of Maggie’s time, a fearsome lot and the kind of crowd that if they were there when you walked into your favourite pub, you'd walk straight out again.
    Other than that I wouldn't have a word said against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonic View Post
    Most of them on here are young, a bit innocent, some a bit thick and like all FG'ers, young or old, they have the shining light of righteousness in their eyes (can you imagine a YFG meeting, you'd have to be wearing the raybans just to enter the room.)

    They do appear to believe that they and they alone are the holders of all that is right and wholesome and any suggestion otherwise is likely to get the same reaction you'd get from the teacher’s pet who has just had a star taken away.

    In many ways they remind me of the young Tories of Maggie’s time, a fearsome lot and the kind of crowd that if they were there when you walked into your favourite pub, you'd walk straight out again.

    Other than that I wouldn't have a word said against them.
    Yawn. Tired old FFer claims FG people are Tories. Shock horror.
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