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    Can Fine Gael cut it in health?

    Fine Gael and their health spokesperson, Dr Liam Twomey have focussed on health for quite a while now as a key election issue.

    Fine Gael are promising 2,300 acute beds, 1,500 step-down beds and 15 urgent care centres across the country.

    Can Fine Gael in government sort out the issues in health - and if their solution seems so simple - why hasn't it been done yet?
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    Do you need to be told the answer? Harney's privitisation empty idealogue! Throwing public land to the privateers to build rich people's hospitals is not a cure for a chronically sick health service!

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    - it's called trying to start a discussion fakey
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    God those FGers are cute.
    The palm off Health to a doomed TD. Good for them that Pat Rabitte said Labour want it. It doesn't matter though its not like they are going to get into government.
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    Can you really compare Twomey to Harney? I would give Harney more time to proof herself.
    The simple fact its that Health care costs so we have to pay of it either in Taxes or Private Health insurance.

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    FG couldn’t cut it in health if they were a surgeon and Labour were a scalpel. They won’t take on the vested interests of consultants, nurses or other public service unions who appear to be running the hospitals to suit themselves. You only have to look at their comments today about the nurses dispute to see how weak they would be.

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    SF have the best health policy.

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    Re: Can Fine Gael cut it in health?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane
    Fine Gael and their health spokesperson, Dr Liam Twomey have focussed on health for quite a while now as a key election issue.

    Fine Gael are promising 2,300 acute beds, 1,500 step-down beds and 15 urgent care centres across the country.

    Can Fine Gael in government sort out the issues in health - and if their solution seems so simple - why hasn't it been done yet?
    You have left out their national health-screening programme, which I think is a necessary innovation. It would be worth switching governments if that was the only difference, but there is more.

    Calling 'halt' to Harney's privatisation is sorely required, and with Labour in tow that is guaranteed. Even the free-market-promoting Financial Times chalked up Tony Blair's ability to keep the numbers covered by private health insurance (along with enrollment in private schools) virtually static over ten years of economic growth as a success. Harney is wantingly pushing people into a for-profit model of healthcare, engraining the two-tier system into the state's infrastructure so to tie the hands of future governments. In that act she threatens the very fundamentals of representative democracy- the ability of one government to change the policies of the last. A degree of this is required in any structural change, but Harney is rushing the signing of contracts. It is all very shady. I find it very difficult to believe that the alternative coalition could do worse- hell, Micheál Martin did a better job!

    It seems the issue in Irish healthcare is one of efficiency. Bar the health-screening programme, I cannot envisage that Fine Gael's programme will have much of an impact on that. But then with the health screening programme they've got one-up on all the other parties.

    On Questions and Answers the other night, Dr Colin Doherty, one of the two neurologists in St James' Hospital, claimed he was only able to work at 10% efficiency. Harney keeps telling us there is no point pouring more money into health unless we change the way it does business- yet she is sending out contracts to employ more consultants on a cost-neutral basis (i.e. to work at 10% efficiency as well).

    It is doubtful if any of the parties have what it takes to cure our very, very sick health service, but ten years on with both Fianna Fáil and PD ministers in there we know the solutions aren't going to come from that direction. I think it's worth giving Fine Gael and Labour a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    SF have the best health policy.
    They won't be in a position to implement it, while Fine Gael probably will.

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    Sinn Fein don't have any health policy, except the same old Sinn Fein policy on everything - all island!
    Fine Gael did well drafting Twomey into the party. As a GP he knows the system better than the rest of the Dail and let's face it, he could hardly do worse than the last two ministers for health.
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