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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomas Mor View Post
    and I agree with poster who said certain members of front bench may be behind this . I would suspect Luz Enda Cretin and Michael Ring, both of whom want 2b a minister and said they will resign if they dont.
    How many times do people have to be told that Creighton ISN'T on the Front Bench?
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    The majority cannot therefore be the elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    How many times do people have to be told that Creighton ISN'T on the Front Bench?

    People just won't listen will they ? why would Enda put a member of one of the three disgruntled faction groups within FG on the front bench .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    How many times do people have to be told that Creighton ISN'T on the Front Bench?

    Is she not spokesperson on EU affairs. She is in the scrum pushing the front row like hell and running to Miriam Lord every times someone tries to gouge her or pull her down
    You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.

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    heard the Morning Ireland interview of the Young FG spokesman about 8.30 a.m. today. Thought the interviewer was bad mannered and unprofessional. Several times the YFG spokesman tried to explain or qualify their view on matters raised, but was not allowed to do so. YFG should complain to the Broadcasting Commission.

    Generally youth wings of parties are not supposed to be followers of the party line in every respect - entitled to develope and articulate different views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergo2 View Post
    heard the Morning Ireland interview of the Young FG spokesman about 8.30 a.m. today. Thought the interviewer was bad mannered and unprofessional. Several times the YFG spokesman tried to explain or qualify their view on matters raised, but was not allowed to do so. YFG should complain to the Broadcasting Commission.
    Cry me a river.

    Surely the real question is why the views of a youth wing of any party, FG or anybody else, are considered important enough to be put on the front page of the Irish Times and given an interview on the pre-eminent current affairs program in the State?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomas Mor View Post
    Is she not spokesperson on EU affairs.
    Yes she is, but that's not a Front Bench post. She's basically Billy Timmins' deputy.

    She is in the scrum pushing the front row like hell and running to Miriam Lord every times someone tries to gouge her or pull her down
    Which still doesn't mean she's on the front bench. To be honest, most of the party just look at Creighton with bemusement these days, wondering why she's so determined to turn herself into a Dublin version of Austin Deasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurocitizen View Post
    People just won't listen will they ? why would Enda put a member of one of the three disgruntled faction groups within FG on the front bench .
    Well the faction group that Creighton belongs to is known as Quota-Squatters United, so I see no reason why she should be on the front bench - anyway, she's shown no evidence of deserving a spot there, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    Well the faction group that Creighton belongs to is known as Quota-Squatters United, so I see no reason why she should be on the front bench - anyway, she's shown no evidence of deserving a spot there, either.

    FG always had people like her, remember Liam Skelly who won the bye election in Dublin W when Dick Burke was tempted off to Europe by CJ Haughey in a stroke that backfied. He though he was God's gift. So also was Austin Deacy as you sasy, and his son John who inherited the seat, tho he is quiet of late. So also is Roaring Ring of Mayo, who boasts i'll be a minister too. and is always braying on local radio on every populist topic. Those folk think de are bigger than the party.:mrgreen:
    You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universidy View Post
    Knowing what is in the document and knowing what the Times have written, I think you'll find the Times doesn't have its facts correct. The only thing it is right on is the Seanad. A more accurate line would be to say that YFG would strongly encourage much more far reaching reforms, including ambitious extension of the list system, and serious reform of the Dail.
    Where would I get the report, or even better a summary. Looked on the website and nothing there (that i can see).
    But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
    And in another development news is that Hobbs is addressing the FG Ard Fheis tomorrow morning???
    That's all they need. A financial adviser who was trying to peddle holiday homes in Cape Verde a few short years ago. At least George Lee was well-known when he stood. Hobbs' fifteen minutes expired quite some time ago, along with his credibility. Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped?

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