YFG reject all of the party's key electoral changes: Times

[tonic]

Sorry, Fianna Fáilers like yourself have no right to complain about any alleged PR stunts.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Sorry Fr., but it's a long time since the likes of yourself got to decide what my rights are.

[bored and fussy]

Well there is a surprise. Young politicians unhappy that the parliamentary creche that is the Seanad is to be abolished before they can get in there!

fair play if they are against something why not say so i believe they have their own ideas its a change from been against everything and for nothing that we see so much of.

[beamish2010]

YFG seem to be in need of a culture shock that will bring them up to date with modern thinking......If they are to help influence future politics they will need to adopt new thinking....how can young people be so far behind?....

It seems that the "young blueshirts" are old before their time.
The same depressing conservative thinking.This country needs a
radical overhall of the system to tackle the problems this country is facing.

[Fr. Hank Tree]

Sorry Fr., but it's a long time since the likes of yourself got to decide what my rights are.

Indeed, but any lectures from FFers on PR stunting and gimmickry should be taken with a pinch of salt.

[universidy]

It seems that the "young blueshirts" are old before their time.
The same depressing conservative thinking.This country needs a
radical overhall of the system to tackle the problems this country is facing.

Wait to read the proposals mate. You will be surprised lad. Your comments aren't informed.

[tonic]

Indeed, but any lectures from FFers on PR stunting and gimmickry should be taken with a pinch of salt.

A stout defence of your party's bright new vision.

It took a full year man!

The two of us could have done better over a cup of tea.

[Fr. Hank Tree]

A stout defence of your party's bright new vision.

It took a full year man!

The two of us could have done better over a cup of tea.

I have criticised the FG proposals myself. Glad you have so much confidence in our hypothetical tea-break conversations

[Passer-by]

I think YFG might not understand the advantages of a list system.

In Switzerland, they don't just have a single party list in the elections. They have multiple party lists. There is the vanilla one, the women's one, the youth one and the "miscellaneous" list. All from the same party, so the voters do get a choice.

We could easily adopt the same system here. We could have all of the above lists plus the honest list, the dodgy list, the ethical list, the appeared-at-a-tribunal one and so on.

[LMN3]

I think YFG might not understand the advantages of a list system.

In Switzerland, they don't just have a single party list in the elections. They have multiple party lists. There is the vanilla one, the women's one, the youth one and the "miscellaneous" list. All from the same party, so the voters do get a choice.

We could easily adopt the same system here. We could have all of the above lists plus the honest list, the dodgy list, the ethical list, the appeared-at-a-tribunal one and so on.

An open list?

[beamish2010]

I think YFG might not understand the advantages of a list system.

In Switzerland, they don't just have a single party list in the elections. They have multiple party lists. There is the vanilla one, the women's one, the youth one and the "miscellaneous" list. All from the same party, so the voters do get a choice.

We could easily adopt the same system here. We could have all of the above lists plus the honest list, the dodgy list, the ethical list, the appeared-at-a-tribunal one and so on.

Switzerland is the country that's nearest to a true democracy.
Ours here in Ireland is sham democracy,rubber stamped by the Dail...