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    Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Recently published was a proposal for an increase in the working hours of irish teachers, and an extension of the working year. As a teacher, I really wasn't best pleased. I personally think that FG have just wiped the swing teaching population from their electoral radar in an effort to please the much smaller group of parents, those who seemed to rear their ugly head when the ASTI were on strike etc, the leeches of the Catholic Parents Association etc.

    So question, does FG think before it speaks? And, why that particular policy?
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    Re: Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Quote Originally Posted by universidy
    Recently published was a proposal for an increase in the working hours of irish teachers, and an extension of the working year. As a teacher, I really wasn't best pleased. I personally think that FG have just wiped the swing teaching population from their electoral radar in an effort to please the much smaller group of parents, those who seemed to rear their ugly head when the ASTI were on strike etc, the leeches of the Catholic Parents Association etc.

    So question, does FG think before it speaks? And, why that particular policy?
    Small group of parents ??? for every teacher their are 30 kids who have 2 parents...

    I think FG are right to demand and get more value from teachers and schools... Standardizing the school year and reducing the 1/2 days and PT meeting days would also by a great step, so parents don’t have to take time of work to suit the teachers... Not every profession gets 200 days off a year...many get by on 20....
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    Re: Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Quote Originally Posted by shannonBlueShirt
    Quote Originally Posted by universidy
    Recently published was a proposal for an increase in the working hours of irish teachers, and an extension of the working year. As a teacher, I really wasn't best pleased. I personally think that FG have just wiped the swing teaching population from their electoral radar in an effort to please the much smaller group of parents, those who seemed to rear their ugly head when the ASTI were on strike etc, the leeches of the Catholic Parents Association etc.

    So question, does FG think before it speaks? And, why that particular policy?
    Small group of parents ??? for every teacher their are 30 kids who have 2 parents...

    I think FG are right to demand and get more value from teachers and schools... Standardizing the school year and reducing the 1/2 days and PT meeting days would also by a great step, so parents don’t have to take time of work to suit the teachers... Not every profession gets 200 days off a year...many get by on 20....
    200 might be an exageration.

    Teachers do put up with levels of personal comment and insult that most professionals would be abhorred by.

    FG can only be basing this policy around the mistaken assessment that it is the quanity and quality of teaching that is question here and not the application and commitment of some students.

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    Re: Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Quote Originally Posted by WestOfCentre
    Quote Originally Posted by shannonBlueShirt
    Quote Originally Posted by universidy
    Recently published was a proposal for an increase in the working hours of irish teachers, and an extension of the working year. As a teacher, I really wasn't best pleased. I personally think that FG have just wiped the swing teaching population from their electoral radar in an effort to please the much smaller group of parents, those who seemed to rear their ugly head when the ASTI were on strike etc, the leeches of the Catholic Parents Association etc.

    So question, does FG think before it speaks? And, why that particular policy?
    Small group of parents ??? for every teacher their are 30 kids who have 2 parents...

    I think FG are right to demand and get more value from teachers and schools... Standardizing the school year and reducing the 1/2 days and PT meeting days would also by a great step, so parents don’t have to take time of work to suit the teachers... Not every profession gets 200 days off a year...many get by on 20....
    200 might be an exageration.

    Teachers do put up with levels of personal comment and insult that most professionals would be abhorred by.

    FG can only be basing this policy around the mistaken assessment that it is the quanity and quality of teaching that is question here and not the application and commitment of some students.
    As a new Teacher, I know for a fact that any increase in my teaching hours would destroy what ever semblence of Life i have left. I have 22 hours teaching time as well as about 15 hours prep per week. I also take the extra curricular sport. What more do the Blueshirts want me to do???
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    Re: Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny
    Quote Originally Posted by WestOfCentre
    Quote Originally Posted by shannonBlueShirt
    Quote Originally Posted by universidy
    Recently published was a proposal for an increase in the working hours of irish teachers, and an extension of the working year. As a teacher, I really wasn't best pleased. I personally think that FG have just wiped the swing teaching population from their electoral radar in an effort to please the much smaller group of parents, those who seemed to rear their ugly head when the ASTI were on strike etc, the leeches of the Catholic Parents Association etc.

    So question, does FG think before it speaks? And, why that particular policy?
    Small group of parents ??? for every teacher their are 30 kids who have 2 parents...

    I think FG are right to demand and get more value from teachers and schools... Standardizing the school year and reducing the 1/2 days and PT meeting days would also by a great step, so parents don’t have to take time of work to suit the teachers... Not every profession gets 200 days off a year...many get by on 20....
    200 might be an exageration.

    Teachers do put up with levels of personal comment and insult that most professionals would be abhorred by.

    FG can only be basing this policy around the mistaken assessment that it is the quanity and quality of teaching that is question here and not the application and commitment of some students.
    As a new Teacher, I know for a fact that any increase in my teaching hours would destroy what ever semblence of Life i have left. I have 22 hours teaching time as well as about 15 hours prep per week. I also take the extra curricular sport. What more do the Blueshirts want me to do???
    Thats only 37 hours a week... Engineers and other professionals the people who maintained the Celtic Tiger which you are trying to milk ... do 50 a week (No such thing as over time), I have worked to midnight at the end of the month/qtr to make the targets (no such thing as over time) .

    200 is an exageration..but this is the group of people who called to be benchedmarked against the self employed at one of their conferences ...
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    Re: Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny
    I have 22 hours teaching time as well as about 15 hours prep per week. I also take the extra curricular sport. What more do the Blueshirts want me to do???
    That would be a very quiet week for me. 60-70 hours is the norm. And I get 21 days holidays per year.

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    I have 22 hours teaching time as well as about 15 hours prep per week.
    37 hours a week. My heart bleeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjcarroll
    I have 22 hours teaching time as well as about 15 hours prep per week.
    37 hours a week. My heart bleeds.
    God you really are an ass hole!! its 37 hoursa of pure stress, also you have a responsibility to the child so that plays on ur mind.

    By the way, you picked the profession you are in!!!
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    Re: Do FG expect teachers to vote for them at all

    Quote Originally Posted by universidy
    Recently published was a proposal for an increase in the working hours of irish teachers, and an extension of the working year. As a teacher, I really wasn't best pleased. I personally think that FG have just wiped the swing teaching population from their electoral radar in an effort to please the much smaller group of parents, those who seemed to rear their ugly head when the ASTI were on strike etc, the leeches of the Catholic Parents Association etc.

    So question, does FG think before it speaks? And, why that particular policy?
    Wouldn't you rather that a party's education policy would focus on children's needs before teachers'?

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    Dunny forgot to mention the supervision of children before and after school, as well as during breaks, which can mean skipping lunches on a regular basis. And you didn't add the extra-curricular work into your calculations. That involves giving up your weekends and after-school hours on top of the time during the week.

    I fully acknowledge that the teachers get far more holidays than I do, and that I'm jealous of that at times, but they work bloody hard the rest of the year. And do they earn as much as the people working 60-70 hour weeks do? If you're working that many hours and getting paid less than a teacher does, I suggest you consider a career change.

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