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About LinkBacksIs there a problem with investigative journalism in this country? Most of the (potentially) scandalous issues involving FF appear to be unearthed by P.ie posters.
Hats off to you.
Is there a problem with investigative journalism in this country? Most of the (potentially) scandalous issues involving FF appear to be unearthed by P.ie posters.
Hats off to you.
Its insane the amount of FF shit that the mainstream media dont cover.Originally Posted by asset test
Digout, maybe libel laws are a factor here. were those laws ever amended by the long standing incumbents in Government referred to above?
FF = One Party State
and the electorate love it
Just so I understand as I am not a fishy guy, if the total tonnage allowed was 200 and it was shared by 50 fisherman/boats, one day Fahey/Bertie gave the quota of 200 tonnes to Atlantic Dawn and spent the next 10 years disowning the 50 of their legal rightful tonnage.
Surely that meant for several years the reported tonnage to EU Fisheries was incorrect or there was huge overfishing or as is more likely figures were doctored.
From an earlier posting it is implicated the Dept of Fisheries actually turned against the 50 in favour of 1 guy.
Why would Fahey/Bertie do this unless there was alleged corruption, the amounts could be well over 7 figures.
I think the alarm bells started ringing when it was discovered that we were selling more fish than we were "landing". The figures didn´t add up. That being said, the CFP is a joke and the quota system is unfair.
Getting back to it Diddleydoo, do you know what happened to the fraud investigation into false landing declarations (not abroad) by numerous Donegal fishermen.
Any of the reports and stories I've relayed and linked to here are the work of respected journalists from various organisations. So they have been doing their job well, but I suspect there's a line they are prevented from crossing. It seems to be endemic in our culture that this is the way things are done here - the 'norm'. I think in the vast majority of other democratic countries these stories would have led to rigorous official investigations, and if any improper behaviour was uncovered severe penalties would be applied.
Cute hoorism is too tolerated here still. We have politicians and councillors and other public representatives who get re-elected after seriously breaking the law. It's bad enough they do not have the dignity to retire from public life in shame but it's galling to see them re-elected time and time again. The people who re-elect them are equally guilty in my eyes. We're a very sick country in this regard and I have no doubt there are many more stories still to emerge. We haven't even scratched the surface.
We all love animals. Why do we call some 'pets' and others 'dinner'?
Thats' pretty much what happened alright.
The Tonnage was known to Europe and they told the Govt on no uncertain terms that it had to be reduced. I think they had hoped it would slip by.
I kid you not, a fisherman I know personally was arrested when he got back to shore and his boat confiscated (for two weeks of the only period in the year they were allowed to fish) because some rule changed while he was at sea but wasn't communicated to him before he came back ashore. Two weeks it took for them to realise that it was just bloody stupid what they were doing and they let him go. His season was all but finished and he missed the (essentally) only chance of making a living that year.
What are you supposed to do if your boat is confiscated while all the others suck up the quota?
As to us selling more fish than we were landing. There's an easy answer to that. Most supermarkets have been IMPORTING their fresh fish for years. Most don't even sell Irish fish.
Any quota-ignoring I have heard of was trivial. A few boxes here a few boxes there. I've heard rumours that some few were at it wholesale though.
Shane.
Another point on investigative journalism. In 2006 the Ireland on Sunday newspaper attempted to get the facts behind the Lost at Sea compensation scheme, of which 75% of the funds went to two of Fahey's constituents. They applied for the info under the Freedom of Information act.
If you look at this pdf file you'll see scans of their original letter and the reply they received. Almost all the info requested on Fahey and his dealings with the Ombudsman was refused, met with:
"Record is exempt as it forms part of a deliberative process of a public body under Section 20. The record is excluded under Section 46(c)(iii)"
Last edited by MsAnneThrope; 7th July 2009 at 10:18 AM.
We all love animals. Why do we call some 'pets' and others 'dinner'?
Given Bertie's obvious dislike of Frank Connolly it is hardly surprising an FoI request was refused, would be interesting if the Indo/IT/Examiner took up the case, would there be a proper response, Fahey gets himself about to fill all the plugholes, you would really wonder why the fishermen are not beating down the door of his house for what he has done.
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