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    Quote Originally Posted by Malbekh View Post
    Ah yeah. I was expecting this. O'Reilly is on about the http://www.politics.ie/current-affai...-lost-sea.html rather than The Atlantic Dawn, same person, different scandal.
    Indeed and people shouldn't confuse the two. Lost at Sea is the one with legs at the moment, and the source of Ms O'Reilly's frustration, so anything related to that should be posted over on that thread (linked above) and not in this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    Indeed and people shouldn't confuse the two. Lost at Sea is the one with legs at the moment, and the source of Ms O'Reilly's frustration, so anything related to that should be posted over on that thread (linked above) and not in this one.
    My fault, I offer my apologies, I bumped the wrong thread when I heard PK's intro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    My fault, I offer my apologies, I bumped the wrong thread when I heard PK's intro.
    Au contraire, in bumping this thread you are doing an equal public service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    My fault, I offer my apologies, I bumped the wrong thread when I heard PK's intro.
    No worries FV, wasn't being critical. It's just best to keep the issues separate. Thanks for letting us know about the PK show too. I had Newstalk on so will listen to the PK interview online shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanley View Post
    Atlantic Dawn owner leaves €70m to wife - Times Online


    When one reads the above article and you see Frank Fahey and Bertie stuck in the middle of it and loads of monies to be made by getting permissions from the EU, one can only think this is another curruption stroke for the 2 lads.

    Anybody got the lowdown on this one.

    This should be looked at by joint Oireachtas committee also. How about that Dan Boyle ?:mrgreen:
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    I have only read the beginning of this thread but the implied cronyism at the outset whereby Fahey wrote to his own constituents 4 months prior to the launch of the "Lost at Sea" Scheme is in line with another dupeing of honest fishermen he presided over whilst minister in that department.

    I'm referring to the convenient way he allowed the total tonnage of the Irish Fishing Fleet to be increased by 14,055 tonnes to accomadate the registration o the €50m, 144 meter super trawler "Atlantic Dawn" which coincidently had a gross tonnage of 14,055.

    One of the conditions of this was that the vessel owner de-registered his 106 mtr super trawler "Veronica" from the Irish register. However, the owner was allowed to retain the 5,206 tonne associated with this vessel and this tonnage still formed part of the overall fleet tonnage.

    This owner was then able to "sell" the tonnage at an average of €5,000 per tonne within the industry to other owners wishing to upsize their vessels or young fishermen looking to enter the industry at that time.

    Hardly seems fair. I cannot remember much questioning from the main opposition party of the day although I do seem to remember Green MEP (at that time) Patricia McKenna causing a fuss and Irish Times journalist Lorna Siggins doing a number of articles.

    Just another Faheyism to muse over.
    Sorry if I've gone off topic here.


    I originally posted this in the "Lost at Sea" thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan Tiger View Post
    it is widely believed that Phat the Cope is a major shareholder in this Boat.
    There is absolutley no substance to this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    A boat with nets so big 'it could catch in a day what conventional trawlers took in a year'.

    Not True. The vessel had capacity to catch about 700 tonne a day and could process(freeze) a maximum of about 320 tonne per day. Still an enormous amount however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly Thicks View Post
    Not True. The vessel had capacity to catch about 700 tonne a day and could process(freeze) a maximum of about 320 tonne per day. Still an enormous amount however.
    I can accept that. I was quoting from the original Times Online article. Still, as you say, an enormous amount. The old quick buck mentality again and to hell with the future repercussions. Machiavellian mackerel men...
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    Polly Thicks, you seem to be very well informed. what's your opinion on the way that the Veronica and Atlantic Dawn were used in plundering fish off the coast of Africa?

    Also, Martin Ferris is on the record of making an allegation that the Atlantic Dawn, now registered to a Dutch consortium is currently fishing off the west coast of Ireland still using its Irish quota.

    Parliamentary Debates (Official Report - Unrevised) Dáil Éireann Thursday, 4 February 2010 - Page 1

    Something that Frank Fahey has vigorously denied.
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