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Thread: Lemass: The man who made modern Ireland

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    Lemass: The man who made modern Ireland

    on RTE 9.30pm tonight.

    So did Lemass make modern Ireland?
    'A defeatist attitude now would surely lead to defeat, it primarly a question of whether we have confidence in ourselves and the dilligence and determination of our people,We can't opt out of the future.' Sean Lemass (1965)

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    Looking forward to this.

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    I think TK Whittaker did but Lemass gets credit for listening to him. More's the pity for Ireland that Whittaker was too honest to be a politician and that politics in Ireland, and certainly not Fianna Fáil, doesn't attract people of that calibre if they even exist anymore.

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    Thanks for that dmc444- watching it now, should be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd-Apjohn View Post
    I think TK Whittaker did but Lemass gets credit for listening to him. More's the pity for Ireland that Whittaker was too honest to be a politician and that politics in Ireland, and certainly not Fianna Fáil, doesn't attract people of that calibre if they even exist anymore.
    I had the pleasure of meeting TK Whitaker a while back. He must be in his late 80s by now but he's sharp as a tack.
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    I wonder what he would make of Cowen and Ahern?

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    Just to jump in with my 2 cents.

    I absolutely regard Lemass as th best leader this country and my party ever had.

    Alot of people forget he was Taoiseach for less than 7 years and my god what a record of achievement.

    Lemass was a 1960s man trapped in a Civil war veterans body.
    'A defeatist attitude now would surely lead to defeat, it primarly a question of whether we have confidence in ourselves and the dilligence and determination of our people,We can't opt out of the future.' Sean Lemass (1965)

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    Typical media hype, Ireland was hardly modern when he left office. I'm not knocking the man or his achievements, just pointing out how silly the title is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc444 View Post
    Alot of people forget he was Taoiseach for less than 7 years and my god what a record of achievement.

    Lemass was a 1960s man trapped in a Civil war veterans body.
    One of his biggest achievements was keeping the country supplied during WW2. After what we learned about the 1960's men, its a bit of an insult to describe someone who was scrupulously honest as one
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    One of his biggest achievements was keeping the country supplied during WW2. After what we learned about the 1960's men, its a bit of an insult to describe someone who was scrupulously honest as one
    I meant interms of his political vision, like seeing that Ireland needed tomove toward free trade and the EEC.
    'A defeatist attitude now would surely lead to defeat, it primarly a question of whether we have confidence in ourselves and the dilligence and determination of our people,We can't opt out of the future.' Sean Lemass (1965)

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