What does Fianna Fail stand for?

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I would love the luxury of being extreme right wing as in FG or extreme left wing as in Labour and the other bunch who are even more left than Labour. Problem people like you cannot grasp is that someone has to run the country and the people of this country whether its how they voted or the system of voting used have deemed FF, despite the corruption of no more than 10 individuals in 84 years, to be their choice. When you SS people realise that an obsession with dirty politics against FF isnt enough then it might be possible you put together a programme the people will accept. Oh, in the case SS means smear and snear

Typical FF answer. Answering a question nobody asked.

I told you who i voted for and why I thought ff were lowlifes, alleged that you were little more than a sheep blindly following mammy and/or daddy's teachings and then illustrated your mentality in that you care little about principles as long as your on the winning side to ride in the gravy train.

And instead of refuting or countering even one of those points, of which some of which showed you in a damning light, you post rubbish about your conception of how left and right three parties are??

And you attempt at making me out to be a begrudger makes no sense when i could simply join the FF party if I even remotely thought what you said was true as i have no family (or otherwise) affiliations.

[staunch ff]

Typical FF answer. Answering a question nobody asked.

I told you who i voted for and why I thought ff were lowlifes, alleged that you were little more than a sheep blindly following mammy and/or daddy's teachings and then illustrated your mentality in that you care little about principles as long as your on the winning side to ride in the gravy train.

And instead of refuting or countering even one of those points, of which some of which showed you in a damning light, you post rubbish about your conception of how left and right three parties are??

And you attempt at making me out to be a begrudger makes no sense when i could simply join the FF party if I even remotely thought what you said was true as i have no family (or otherwise) affiliations.

Have you and idea how difficult it is to take seriously the Anti FF Party when they are natural born losers ?

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Have you and idea how difficult it is to take seriously the Anti FF Party when they are natural born losers ?

Actually i'm an individual with no affiliations and who has made up his own mind. Naturally you'd prefer to keep dodging the points, hiding behind every excuse you can muster.

So... Any chance of an answer or do you need to consult mammy or daddy first??

[staunch ff]

Actually i'm an individual with no affiliations and who has made up his own mind. Naturally you'd prefer to keep dodging the points, hiding behind every excuse you can muster.

So... Any chance of an answer or do you need to consult mammy or daddy first??

I am a bleeding grandfather and wife has just told me we have to go out in the bad weather tomorrow to a 3rd birthdat party !!

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I am a bleeding grandfather and wife has just told me we have to go out in the bad weather tomorrow to a 3rd birthdat party !!

So? Are you saying that your weren't a born and bred FFer? That you actually have the ability to decide based on more than who can look after you best??

Tell you what - in a couple of years when your grandkids have had to emigrate thanks to your party's ineptitude and you find your wife dying on a hospital trolly, maybe then you'll realise that being on the winning side is less important than responsible government. Sounds harsh but its becoming reality.

So, any more ways to dodge the questions?

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FF is the 'look at us, aren't we great' (at always fu*king up and costing the taxpayers billions)' party. Unfortunately the followers of this cult are so mentally challenged you cannot get them to see it. Party loyalty is an addiction with no 12 step program for getting clean. You gotta feel for 'em. Trapped in a cycle of abuse. FF and moreso the extremist and unquestioning loyalty to it, by its members, is more of a threat to the future of Ireland and a good Irish society, than equally fervent followers of extremist Islam teachings about rewards of 20 virgins.
Living in Ireland with the FF extremist morons is like sharing accomodation with people with an alcohol and drug problem. The house is in a f**king mess and all your stuff keeps going missing.
Of course the FF addicts just wanna get high on your cash and dont give a sh1t about anyone or anything else.
They could all do with waking up, getting educated about their problem and getting trained in how to live in a society, with other people and not keep f**king up everyones lives.
Lets worry about our excuse for democracy in 2012, right now our society needs rebuildling and we cannot do it if all of these people are still on junk such as FF brand addiciton.
Thank you and good night

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FF stands for "strange business dealings for a lot of TDs and councillors involved in the party from the very top to the very bottom"

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Fianna Fáil stands for election.

I remember an article from a number of years ago (Magill I think ) and the headline read along the lines - Bertie Ahern stands for nothing- runs for everything.
I think that just about sums it up.

[staunch ff]

Typical FF answer. Answering a question nobody asked.

I told you who i voted for and why I thought ff were lowlifes, alleged that you were little more than a sheep blindly following mammy and/or daddy's teachings and then illustrated your mentality in that you care little about principles as long as your on the winning side to ride in the gravy train.

And instead of refuting or countering even one of those points, of which some of which showed you in a damning light, you post rubbish about your conception of how left and right three parties are??

And you attempt at making me out to be a begrudger makes no sense when i could simply join the FF party if I even remotely thought what you said was true as i have no family (or otherwise) affiliations.

My biggest problem with sites like this and in the real world is to find people who will discuss economic, political and social issues without a bias. In 2007 25 % of the electorate voted FF, I have to assume the vast majority of the remaining 75% opposed every thing FF stands for and I assure this contention is based on the cold reality of knocking on doors in last June elections. Political bigotry in this country has multiplied enormously since the downturn and its almost impossible to have discussion about what really counts, our country

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My biggest problem with sites like this and in the real world is to find people who will discuss economic, political and social issues without a bias. In 2007 25 % of the electorate voted FF, I have to assume the vast majority of the remaining 75% opposed every thing FF stands for and I assure this contention is based on the cold reality of knocking on doors in last June elections. Political bigotry in this country has multiplied enormously since the downturn and its almost impossible to have discussion about what really counts, our country

What is impossible is your belief that this countries future has to involve FF.